View Poll Results: How serious a problem is the divide between the wealthy and the rest of us?

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  • Not a problem at all.

    35 28.46%
  • A problem, but not a serious one.

    8 6.50%
  • A fairly serious problem.

    42 34.15%
  • It's not just a "problem." It's a catastrophe that is only getting worse.

    38 30.89%
  • This divide does not exist.

    0 0%
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    Re: The divide between the rich and the rest

    Quote Originally Posted by Rocketman View Post
    Really? neither Jobs or Gates were wealthy in the beginning

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    And you think those guys got rich through a staunch devotion to fair play and fee markets? You think a corporate plutocrat who makes his money off of Asian slave labor is earning his money honestly?

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    Re: The divide between the rich and the rest

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    You have 3 out of how many people? You do realize the only thing you have shown here is that coming from middle class or less to become truly wealthy is an outside chance at best.
    It happens all the time, I know at least 10 millionaires that were dirt poor as kids, some of you must live in box or under a rock

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    Re: The divide between the rich and the rest

    Quote Originally Posted by Guy Incognito View Post
    And you think those guys got rich through a staunch devotion to fair play and fee markets?
    Absolutely, the successful start with an idea, many that complain are not dedicated enough to pursue those kind of rewards, hell I'm not. I want to work my 60 hour week draw may pay, play and spend time with the family. It comes down to drive and dedication to meeting your goals and objectives.

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    Re: The divide between the rich and the rest

    Quote Originally Posted by Rocketman View Post
    It happens all the time, I know at least 10 millionaires that were dirt poor as kids, some of you must live in box or under a rock
    You "know" at least 10 millionaires that were dirt poor huh? Who, how? Also, care to supply actual statistics? How many in the top 1% started out poor? How many in the top 0.1% (where the TRUE wealth lies) started out poor?

    Stats, not personal testimony. Personal testimony only counts if someone made an absolute statement such as "no poor person, regardless of hard word, dedication or luck, could ever rise to the ranks for the rich", but no one said that.
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    Re: The divide between the rich and the rest

    Quote Originally Posted by Rocketman View Post
    It happens all the time, I know at least 10 millionaires that were dirt poor as kids, some of you must live in box or under a rock
    The person living under a rock is the guy who thinks being a millionaire is wealthy!

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    Re: The divide between the rich and the rest

    Quote Originally Posted by Rocketman View Post
    Absolutely, the successful start with an idea, many that complain are not dedicated enough to pursue those kind of rewards, hell I'm not. I want to work my 60 hour week draw may pay, play and spend time with the family. It comes down to drive and dedication to meeting your goals and objectives.
    I guess you missed my edit. You are conveniently ignoriing the fact that bill gates And Steve jobs made their riches off the backs of Chinese human rights violations. They are essentially criminals.

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    Re: The divide between the rich and the rest

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    You "know" at least 10 millionaires that were dirt poor huh? Who, how? Also, care to supply actual statistics? How many in the top 1% started out poor? How many in the top 0.1% (where the TRUE wealth lies) started out poor?

    Stats, not personal testimony. Personal testimony only counts if someone made an absolute statement such as "no poor person, regardless of hard word, dedication or luck, could ever rise to the ranks for the rich", but no one said that.
    5 of them were contractors that benefitted from the housing boom, a couple more of them are rental property guys, and the others just though real estate and other deals. Point is their family lives suck, and they work 80+ hours per week every week, they dream of ways to make their next dollar.

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    Re: The divide between the rich and the rest

    Quote Originally Posted by Guy Incognito View Post
    I guess you missed my edit. You are conveniently imprint the fact that bill gates And Steve jobs made their riches off the backs of Chinese human rights violations. They are essentially criminals.
    That is your opinion, but means nothing in this argument. Everyone that is a failure can find an excuse if they look hard enough

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    Re: The divide between the rich and the rest

    Quote Originally Posted by Guy Incognito View Post
    The person living under a rock is the guy who thinks being a millionaire is wealthy!
    When it is multiple times, it is

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    Re: The divide between the rich and the rest

    Quote Originally Posted by Rocketman View Post
    5 of them were contractors that benefitted from the housing boom, a couple more of them are rental property guys, and the others just though real estate and other deals. Point is their family lives suck, and they work 80+ hours per week every week, they dream of ways to make their next dollar.
    Yes, there are some fairly well off people who do so a lot. Hard work and luck can still account for something. But what's the break down? As I said, how many in the top 1% started poor? How many in the top 0.1% started poor? If we have true free market capitalism and economic mobility, we'd see quite a bit of movement. But if we have stagnation and a closed, corporate capitalist system we'll start seeing less and less till economic mobility is removed. So which side is it?
    You know the time is right to take control, we gotta take offense against the status quo

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