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    Re: Should the president hav a term limit?

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
    As i have said before in threads before this about term limits:
    "I believe they (term limits) are pointless. If people like you and you are a good leader and you are operating in free and fair elections the people can no longer vote for who they want. You also loose leaders, and experienced government officials. They are undemocratic. Plus democratic elections also are basically a sort of limit, they are a structural limitation, hense you have to win if you want to hold power.
    More reasons include if you cannot run for a position because of a term limit and a new leader is elected that person who previously held the position takes all the experience and essential skills and work experience, and when a new leader comes in they will have to develop this from scratch. Also leaders who have reached a term limit are more likely to ignore the will of the people and the promises they promised on the campaign since they wont face a electorate after their last term.
    They also serve little to no purpose. If you are popular amongst your people why should something such as a term limit hold your back for running again? It slows down democracy, and government."
    Sorry, but Obama can't serve another term. Too bad.

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    Re: Should the president hav a term limit?

    Quote Originally Posted by joko104 View Post
    Sorry, but Obama can't serve another term. Too bad.
    Thanks for pointing that out detective.


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    Re: Should the president hav a term limit?

    Living in a country where our Prime Ministers can serve unlimited terms and where no harm and perhaps significant benefit has resulted, I see no overwhelming need to limit service in such a way. If your country spent less time on primaries to determine candidates, you might actually have time to spend getting the business of the country done. Party leadership races/conventions here in Canada are fairly rare things and leaders often run in multiple elections before their party wins the election and PM spot. Why spend the better part of two years and billions of dollars vetting a Presidential candidate and then toss him/her to the curb after one election?

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    Re: Should the president hav a term limit?

    Quote Originally Posted by CanadaJohn View Post
    Living in a country where our Prime Ministers can serve unlimited terms and where no harm and perhaps significant benefit has resulted, I see no overwhelming need to limit service in such a way. If your country spent less time on primaries to determine candidates, you might actually have time to spend getting the business of the country done. Party leadership races/conventions here in Canada are fairly rare things and leaders often run in multiple elections before their party wins the election and PM spot. Why spend the better part of two years and billions of dollars vetting a Presidential candidate and then toss him/her to the curb after one election?
    But your prime minister isnt elected by the people, but rather the parliament. Youve never had one serve longer than 10ish years, and they have nowhere near the power the US president has.

    The reason we favor term limits is to keep power from corrupting the President.

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    Re: Should the president hav a term limit?

    Quote Originally Posted by joko104 View Post
    Sorry, but Obama can't serve another term. Too bad.
    Neither can W or Clinton, but George H W and Jimmy Carter are still eligible for a comeback!


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    This issue has been plowed more times than Paris Hilton.
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    Too bad we have to observe human rights.

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    Re: Should the president hav a term limit?

    Quote Originally Posted by jonny5 View Post
    But your prime minister isnt elected by the people, but rather the parliament. Youve never had one serve longer than 10ish years, and they have nowhere near the power the US president has.

    The reason we favor term limits is to keep power from corrupting the President.
    Actually, our Prime Minister is elected by the people, at least in the riding in which he/she runs for a seat in parliament. Secondly, I'd argue that our Prime Ministers have infinitely more power than US Presidents in the normal operations of government. There is nothing that gets voted on in parliament without the Prime Minister's say so, with the exception of private members bills which are generally sent off to limbo and ignored. The Prime Minister and the PMO, his/her office, set the agenda and tell government members how to vote, when to vote, when to be in the house or when they can be absent, etc. Can you imagine President Obama telling Harry Reid and Nancy Pelosi everything they can and can't do and what they can and can't vote on?

    The benefit, for the people of Canada, is that when people vote for a party representative, they know they are voting for the leader and when the leader is elected, they know the member of the party they voted for is 100% or close to it behind the leader and everyone in that party is working for the same agenda.

    You're right though that few serve beyond 10 years, but some do, and in those 10 or so years very little of their time is spent on the business of politics and the vast majority is spent on the business of the country.

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    Re: Should the president hav a term limit?

    Quote Originally Posted by CanadaJohn View Post
    Actually, our Prime Minister is elected by the people, at least in the riding in which he/she runs for a seat in parliament. Secondly, I'd argue that our Prime Ministers have infinitely more power than US Presidents in the normal operations of government. There is nothing that gets voted on in parliament without the Prime Minister's say so, with the exception of private members bills which are generally sent off to limbo and ignored. The Prime Minister and the PMO, his/her office, set the agenda and tell government members how to vote, when to vote, when to be in the house or when they can be absent, etc. Can you imagine President Obama telling Harry Reid and Nancy Pelosi everything they can and can't do and what they can and can't vote on?

    The benefit, for the people of Canada, is that when people vote for a party representative, they know they are voting for the leader and when the leader is elected, they know the member of the party they voted for is 100% or close to it behind the leader and everyone in that party is working for the same agenda.

    You're right though that few serve beyond 10 years, but some do, and in those 10 or so years very little of their time is spent on the business of politics and the vast majority is spent on the business of the country.
    But the point is, you dont have a person campaigning for executive power. You have a party campaigning for power, who then selects the executive, and can remove them, which has happened 5 times in the last 60 years. Our congress can not remove the President except in very extreme circumstances. With the executive power the President can wield, he can effectively use it to get relected, by using the office to campaign, and steering money to voters indirectly.

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    Re: Should the president hav a term limit?

    2010 was another banner year for Republie diversion into term limits as was 1990.
    Dems stupidly played right into their hands in both census year mid-term elections by not voting.
    Which is why we have such a dysfuntional House now.
    2020 is the next time Dems can undo their ignorance while we see Repubes already shoring up weak seats in 2014.

    Quote Originally Posted by rocket88 View Post
    Which they suddenly forgot about when in power....

    Actually, there are term limits. They're called elections. Had enough of the current guy, vote for someone else. Don't look to government laws to make your job easier.

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