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    Re: Mankind Is Inherentaly

    Quote Originally Posted by sawyerloggingon View Post
    If doing something good for someone else makes you feel good and that is the only reason you do it then you are basically in the man is inherently good camp.
    Inherently selfish. He's not doing it because it helps someone else, he's doing it because it makes him feel good about himself. Just because the outcome appears to be unselfish doesn't mean the motivation was.

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    Re: Mankind Is Inherentaly

    You see, that's how society defines good and evil. If the outcome is something society approves of, it's good even though the motivations for both the good act and evil act emanate from the same selfish or self preservation inclination.

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    Re: Mankind Is Inherentaly

    More good than evil.

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    Re: Mankind Is Inherentaly

    Quote Originally Posted by spanky View Post
    So evil is defined by the Bible?
    Mostly, yes.

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    What an absolutely horrible way to go through life. I feel sorry for you if that's truly what you believe.

    So you yourself are inherently evil then? That's what you're saying?

    Without choosing to be "good" - your default is evil?

    Really?
    Yes, I am inherently evil. My nature is self serving, my nature is to assume that I am the judge of right and wrong or good and evil just like every other human's inerrant evil nature.

    The default nature is to be evil, people can chose to do good deeds but our inherent nature is evil.
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    Re: Mankind Is Inherentaly

    Quote Originally Posted by spanky View Post
    Inherently selfish. He's not doing it because it helps someone else, he's doing it because it makes him feel good about himself. Just because the outcome appears to be unselfish doesn't mean the motivation was.
    But in order to feel good about helping someone else, one must believe that helping others is a good thing. That puts that person in the "people are good" camp
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    Re: Mankind Is Inherentaly

    I wouldn't say evil, but I would say seriously flawed and prone to self-harm.
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    Re: Mankind Is Inherentaly

    All cultures are different and the definitions of good and evil are different in every culture.

    Americans have the capacity to be unbelievably altruistic and benevolent and those who have been in life or death situations know that men sometimes give their lives for complete strangers for no obvious reason whatsoever. On the other hand, sometimes you do what you have to do to survive. Sometimes you don't.

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    Re: Mankind Is Inherentaly

    Quote Originally Posted by spanky View Post
    Inherently selfish. He's not doing it because it helps someone else, he's doing it because it makes him feel good about himself. Just because the outcome appears to be unselfish doesn't mean the motivation was.
    Again, you don't understand what "selfish" means. Selfish does not mean "doing something because it makes you feel about yourself." Selfish means " doing something for yourself at the expense of other people." Holding a door open for someone to help them is 100% not selfish because it is not done at the expense of another person. Now, if one were to hold open a door for someone just to get praised and in the process, knocks someone over to do so, THAT would selfish.

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    Mankind Is Inherentaly

    Spanky, the statement is phrased " there's no such thing as a selfless act". This doesn't mean every act is selfish, but that every act is in someway self centered.

    Not that surprising, since the basis of morality is " do unto others..."

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    Re: Mankind Is Inherentaly

    selfish - takes the path of least resistance.
    Nobody who wins a war indulges in a bifurcated definition of victory. War is a political act; victory and defeat have meaning only in political terms. A country incapable of achieving its political objectives at an acceptable cost is losing the war, regardless of battlefield events.

    Bifurcating victory (e.g. winning militarily, losing politically) is a useful salve for defeated armies. The "stab in the back" narrative helped take the sting out of failure for German generals after WWI and their American counterparts after Vietnam.

    All the same, it's nonsense. To paraphrase Vince Lombardi, show me a political loser, and I'll show you a loser.
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