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Thread: Creating terror - A mans to an end, or the goal?

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    Re: Creating terror - A mans to an end, or the goal?

    Quote Originally Posted by Sarcogito View Post
    I think it is a means unto an end. I think that is what separates terrorists from run of the mill mass murderers. Some of the organized or quasiorganized groups like al Queda actually do elaborate exactly what they want. Withdrawal all forces from Muslim countries, withdrawal support of Israel, etc.
    Have you read bin Laden's "open letter to America" that was published in the London Times (2002?)? He spells out exactly what the goal is.

    Edit: Here's a link. I love the Internet.

    http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2002/nov/24/theobserver

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    Re: Creating terror - A mans to an end, or the goal?

    Quote Originally Posted by nota bene View Post
    Have you read bin Laden's "open letter to America" that was published in the London Times (2002?)? He spells out exactly what the goal is.

    Edit: Here's a link. I love the Internet.

    Full text: bin Laden's 'letter to America' | World news | Observer.co.uk
    You're right. It is very detailed.

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    Re: Creating terror - A mans to an end, or the goal?

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    is "creating terror" a goal of terrorism, or is it a means to an end?
    1: Depends on who's doing it. I say this because some people just want to create terror in others because they thrive on the feeling of power and/or fear that is caused. Others do it to try and accomplish something they believe needs to be accomplished at any cost, even if they find it distasteful.

    2: Both. I say this because you presented an "either/or" arguement and didn't account that some people may very well thrive on the power/fear AND want to accomplish something with it.
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    Re: Creating terror - A mans to an end, or the goal?

    Quote Originally Posted by Kal'Stang View Post
    1: Depends on who's doing it. I say this because some people just want to create terror in others because they thrive on the feeling of power and/or fear that is caused. Others do it to try and accomplish something they believe needs to be accomplished at any cost, even if they find it distasteful.

    2: Both. I say this because you presented an "either/or" arguement and didn't account that some people may very well thrive on the power/fear AND want to accomplish something with it.
    In hindsight, I should have added a choice for both
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    Re: Creating terror - A mans to an end, or the goal?

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    is "creating terror" a goal of terrorism, or is it a means to an end?
    It's most likely a means to an end, mostly revolving around power and money as pretty much everything in human history has.
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    Re: Creating terror - A mans to an end, or the goal?

    I personally believe terrorist groups are made up of the hate filled individuals in society who simply find an ideology/religion or outlet to express that hate. I believe that even if their terrorist acts achieved some set goal that many in these groups would simply find a new target or goal because their real purpose is to harm others with no other real reason involved. Some people just want to hurt others.

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    Re: Creating terror - A mans to an end, or the goal?

    Quote Originally Posted by Baralis View Post
    I personally believe terrorist groups are made up of the hate filled individuals in society who simply find an ideology/religion or outlet to express that hate. I believe that even if their terrorist acts achieved some set goal that many in these groups would simply find a new target or goal because their real purpose is to harm others with no other real reason involved. Some people just want to hurt others.
    Terrorism is born from pissed off people who have no ability to affect a system.
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    Re: Creating terror - A mans to an end, or the goal?

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    In hindsight, I should have added a choice for both
    I'm not so sure you should have. I think it's pretty important we come to understand that terrorism should be reserved for people who are trying to cause social/political change and that's their method (as jredbaron said on page 1).

    If we think of terrorism as just the production of a fear response in people, then I think we are on a slippery slope, and government has made for itself an unconstitutional trump card.

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    Re: Creating terror - A mans to an end, or the goal?

    Quote Originally Posted by Neomalthusian View Post
    I'm not so sure you should have. I think it's pretty important we come to understand that terrorism should be reserved for people who are trying to cause social/political change and that's their method (as jredbaron said on page 1).

    If we think of terrorism as just the production of a fear response in people, then I think we are on a slippery slope, and government has made for itself an unconstitutional trump card.
    Though I agree with you, the fact remains that this a poll of peoples' opinion and that peoples' opinions often have nothing to do with the facts
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