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    No Miranda reading: Good or bad idea?

    No Miranda reading: Good or bad idea?

    Feds Make Miranda Rights Exception for Marathon Bombing Suspect Dzhokhar Tsarnaev - ABC News

    I'm feeling pretty confident that we got the right guy. But, as someone who believes that the integrity of the overall system is more important than any single incident and/or suspect, I have issues with not reading the guy his Miranda warning. One, as he is in custody, I'm failing to see any scenario where he continues to pose any threat to public safety that would trigger this, and two, it smacks of yet another end-run around the Constitution using fear and emotion as the rationalization.
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    Re: No Miranda reading: Good or bad idea?

    The only way that the "Public Safety" rule could be imposed is if they truly believe that there are more pending attacks that can be stopped.
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    Re: No Miranda reading: Good or bad idea?

    So does this exception mean he doesn't have the right to remain silent and the right to an attorney or just that he doesn't have to be told about the right? If it is the latter I am not as concerned as I am sure most people nowadays are aware of it. But it still doesn't look like it would meet that exception. What threat to national security did he pose once they had his wounded ass in custody?

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    Re: No Miranda reading: Good or bad idea?

    Quote Originally Posted by Schutzengel View Post
    The only way that the "Public Safety" rule could be imposed is if they truly believe that there are more pending attacks that can be stopped.
    And seeing as how this is what the Police tweeted upon his capture:

    CAPTURED!!! The hunt is over. The search is done. The terror is over. And justice has won. Suspect in custody.
    I'm guessing they didn't think that was the case.

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    Re: No Miranda reading: Good or bad idea?

    Quote Originally Posted by radcen View Post
    No Miranda reading: Good or bad idea?

    Feds Make Miranda Rights Exception for Marathon Bombing Suspect Dzhokhar Tsarnaev - ABC News

    I'm feeling pretty confident that we got the right guy. But, as someone who believes that the integrity of the overall system is more important than any single incident and/or suspect, I have issues with not reading the guy his Miranda warning. One, as he is in custody, I'm failing to see any scenario where he continues to pose any threat to public safety that would trigger this, and two, it smacks of yet another end-run around the Constitution using fear and emotion as the rationalization.
    I don't like it simply because a shyster lawyer will be able to get him off!!

    I want every i dotted,every t crossed because if he's guilty I want

    him to pay the fullest penalty available!!

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    Re: No Miranda reading: Good or bad idea?

    Quote Originally Posted by penn1954 View Post
    I don't like it simply because a shyster lawyer will be able to get him off!!
    1. That's a slur.

    2. No lawyer is going to get anybody off. The public safety exception to Miranda is perfectly legal.

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    Re: No Miranda reading: Good or bad idea?

    read the scumbag **** his rights.

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    Re: No Miranda reading: Good or bad idea?

    Right, so why didnt they Mirandize him... he IS a US citizen... unless someone told them not to so that he could walk on a technicality
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    Re: No Miranda reading: Good or bad idea?

    Quote Originally Posted by Guy Incognito View Post
    1. That's a slur.

    2. No lawyer is going to get anybody off. The public safety exception to Miranda is perfectly legal.
    No slur intended. I'm sure there are honest lawyers out there.

    As to #2 why not read the idiot his rights,then we don't have to

    worry about him getting off on a technicallity?

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    Re: No Miranda reading: Good or bad idea?

    ONLY, if they believe there to be an imminent threat to public safety in general, I.E. they think there are others ready to commit acts of terror that can still be stopped.
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