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    Re: Can you call yourself Christian and be Pro Abortion/Choice?

    Killing babies for sexual convenience is not compatible with the Bible's teachings or with the most fundamental precepts of Christianity. Humans are supposed to accept God's will, not frivolously play God with the lives of innocents.
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    Re: Can you call yourself Christian and be Pro Abortion/Choice?

    Quote Originally Posted by aquapub View Post
    Killing babies for sexual convenience is not compatible with the Bible's teachings or with the most fundamental precepts of Christianity. Humans are supposed to accept God's will, not frivolously play God with the lives of innocents.
    Now I have to very much agree with this, so... I don't know if those who really accepted Christ as their savior - and only God and that person would know for certain - would actually WANT to abort babies at the drop of a hat (actually when I first answered, I was thinking extreme circumstances where the mother was sure to die) but yhe people who did abortions could always come to Christ when they were ready, and I at least hope they would quit using it as birth control...
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    Re: Can you call yourself Christian and be Pro Abortion/Choice?

    Quote Originally Posted by Lachean View Post
    Hang on, so you're saying the Catholic church is fallible? But earlier you said:



    So if the Church's beliefs = Christ's, and they're fallible, could Christ have been wrong?

    One way or the other, infallible and hypocritical, or wrong.
    You know although I am a practicing Catholic I am not a good one and am not really comfortable arguing religion.........I am a person of faith though and believe the precepts of Jesus Christ as taught to me by the Roman Catholic Church can never be wrong..........

    Now I have a question for you......Why do you insist on identyfying yourself as slightly Conservative when you are one of the biggest Liberals in this forum.......... Just curious.......
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    Re: Can you call yourself Christian and be Pro Abortion/Choice?

    Quote Originally Posted by Kandahar View Post
    That's not what you said. You said Jesus' beliefs and the Catholic Church's beliefs were one and the same. Well, those things I listed were the beliefs of the Catholic Church.

    So did Jesus support those beliefs? Yes or no.
    Lets put it this way.........The Roman Catholic Church follows the Precepts of Jesus Christ.......
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    Re: Can you call yourself Christian and be Pro Abortion/Choice?

    Quote Originally Posted by Kandahar View Post
    Umm no. They've been commonplace for millennia. I see that your knowledge of history is almost as complete as your knowledge of the Bible.
    Attack me again huh.........Nope your wrong Abortions are much more prevelent such Roe V Wade was enacted in 1972........Hopefully we can get rid of that murderous law shortly........
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    Re: Can you call yourself Christian and be Pro Abortion/Choice?

    Quote Originally Posted by Southern Belle View Post
    Now I have to very much agree with this, so... I don't know if those who really accepted Christ as their savior - and only God and that person would know for certain - would actually WANT to abort babies at the drop of a hat (actually when I first answered, I was thinking extreme circumstances where the mother was sure to die) but yhe people who did abortions could always come to Christ when they were ready, and I at least hope they would quit using it as birth control...
    I think very few people would argue where if a woman does not have and abortion her life is endangered..........But I would expect of the 40,000,000 abortions performed since 1972 maybe a couple of million were performed because the mothers life was endangered........
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    Re: Can you call yourself Christian and be Pro Abortion/Choice?

    Quote Originally Posted by Navy Pride View Post
    But you were responding to a post where I said I got my beliefs from my Catholic religion..........

    Try again........
    And, not saying anything against the church, but against YOU. I stated that you (OR ANYBODY) should believe everything they are told (BY ANYONE).

    Why is that so hard to understand?
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    Re: Can you call yourself Christian and be Pro Abortion/Choice?

    Quote Originally Posted by Navy Pride View Post
    You know although I am a practicing Catholic I am not a good one and am not really comfortable arguing religion.
    Then why did you create this thread?

    Quote Originally Posted by Navy Pride
    I am a person of faith though and believe the precepts of Jesus Christ as taught to me by the Roman Catholic Church can never be wrong.
    Interesting, because most Christians believe that *Jesus* is infallible, not their church. You don't accept the possibility that the Catholic Church could ever get it wrong? If you acknowledge that the Church once supported those atrocities I listed before, what makes you think that the CURRENT incarnation of the Catholic Church has finally attained perfect knowledge of Jesus' beliefs?
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    Re: Can you call yourself Christian and be Pro Abortion/Choice?

    Quote Originally Posted by Navy Pride View Post
    You know although I am a practicing Catholic I am not a good one and am not really comfortable arguing religion.
    Why then, did you start a thread discussing religion?

    I am a person of faith though and believe the precepts of Jesus Christ as taught to me by the Roman Catholic Church can never be wrong..........
    So, the Church can never be wrong, thats what you are saying. I ask you to refer again to the earlier mentioned list of slights by the Catholic Church and ask your self if the church was in the right position on those issues.

    Now I have a question for you......Why do you insist on identyfying yourself as slightly Conservative when you are one of the biggest Liberals in this forum.......... Just curious.......
    Although not addressed to me this would be what is considered an ad hominem. Very poor debate tactics.
    "I condemn the ideology of White Supremacy and Nazism. They are thugs, criminals, and repugnant, and are against what I believe to be "The American Way" "
    Thus my obligatory condemnation of White supremacy will now be in every post, lest I be accused of supporting it because I didn't mention it specifically every time I post.

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    Re: Can you call yourself Christian and be Pro Abortion/Choice?

    Quote Originally Posted by Navy Pride View Post
    Attack me again huh.........Nope your wrong Abortions are much more prevelent such Roe V Wade was enacted in 1972........Hopefully we can get rid of that murderous law shortly........
    So, your trying to say that in the thousands of years (just of documented hisotry), that when there was never any laws forbiding or allowing abortions, abortions didn't happen. But suddenly when a court decision comes out stating that the states can't pass a law forbiding such an act, suddenly everyone runs out and decides that abortions are necessary.

    Do you think that suddenly in the 1970s something triggered in the brain of every woman that if they don't want thier baby they will just stop it from growing furthur? Do you think that women (or men) NEVER thought of that before 1972?

    Is this really so hard to understand?
    "I condemn the ideology of White Supremacy and Nazism. They are thugs, criminals, and repugnant, and are against what I believe to be "The American Way" "
    Thus my obligatory condemnation of White supremacy will now be in every post, lest I be accused of supporting it because I didn't mention it specifically every time I post.

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