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    Re: Can you call yourself Christian and be Pro Abortion/Choice?

    Sure you can religion and hypocrisy go hand in hand. In fact it was recently brought to my attention that my biological father, whom I don't know, was granted an annulment by the Catholic church in regards to his marriage to my mother. So I guess my sister, brothers, and I are all bastards. The church never informed any of us of our new status or attempted to tell my mother her previous marriage was invalid. I guess for the right chunk of change you can call yourself a Christian and do just about any 'ol thing. As if I needed another reason to despise religion.

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    Re: Can you call yourself Christian and be Pro Abortion/Choice?

    Quote Originally Posted by hipsterdufus View Post
    Try these questions.

    Can you call yourself Christian and be:

    against slavery?
    against working on the sabbath?
    pro death penalty?
    prowar?
    against helping the poor?
    a supporter of wearing clothes from mixed threads?
    a person who touches a football made of pig?

    etc. etc. etc.
    against slavery? Yes
    against working on the sabbath? yes
    pro death penalty? yes
    prowar? yes
    against helping the poor? no
    a supporter of wearing clothes from mixed threads? huh?
    a person who touches a football made of pig? huh?
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    Re: Can you call yourself Christian and be Pro Abortion/Choice?

    Quote Originally Posted by Navy Pride View Post
    a supporter of wearing clothes from mixed threads? huh?

    This is obviously a reference to Leviticus 19:19:

    "Ye shall keep my statutes. Thou shalt not let thy cattle gender with a diverse kind: thou shalt not sow thy field with mingled seed: neither shall a garment mingled of linen and woolen come upon thee."

    a person who touches a football made of pig? huh?
    This is probably a reference to the dietary restrictions prescribed in Leviticus 11.

    "11:3 Whatsoever parteth the hoof, and is clovenfooted, and cheweth the cud, among the beasts, that shall ye eat.
    11:4 Nevertheless these shall ye not eat of them that chew the cud, or of them that divide the hoof: as the camel, because he cheweth the cud, but divideth not the hoof; he is unclean unto you.
    1:5 And the coney, because he cheweth the cud , but divideth not the hoof; he is unclean unto you.
    1:6 And the hare, because he cheweth the cud , but divideth not the hoof; he is unclean unto you.
    11:7 And the swine, though he divide the hoof, and be clovenfooted, yet he cheweth not the cud; he is unclean to you.
    11:8 Of their flesh shall ye not eat, and their carcase shall ye not touch; they are unclean to you."


    Pretty explicit stuff, I'd say.
    Ironic that in the midst of all this, God never found time to say word one about abortion.

    But the really relevant question, in my mind is, what's your stance on shellfish?
    Because, look here:

    Lev 11:9 These shall ye eat of all that are in the waters: whatsoever hath fins and scales in the waters, in the seas, and in the rivers, them shall ye eat.
    11:10 And all that have not fins and scales in the seas, and in the rivers, of all that move in the waters, and of any living thing which is in the waters, they shall be an abomination unto you:
    11:11 They shall be even an abomination unto you; ye shall not eat of their flesh, but ye shall have their carcases in abomination.
    11:12 Whatsoever hath no fins nor scales in the waters, that shall be an abomination unto you.


    And then, blah-blah-blah, God goes on to caution followers about the moral dangers inherent in consuming ospreys, vultures, and other birds of prey.

    So, anyone: Shellfish?
    Should we boycott Red Lobster, picket Long John Silver's?
    Dear God, won't somebody please think of the children!!

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    Re: Can you call yourself Christian and be Pro Abortion/Choice?

    Quote Originally Posted by Navy Pride View Post
    a supporter of wearing clothes from mixed threads? huh?
    a person who touches a football made of pig? huh?
    Maybe you should read the Bible yourself, before you tell other people that they aren't "real Christians."
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    Re: Can you call yourself Christian and be Pro Abortion/Choice?

    Quote Originally Posted by 1069 View Post
    This is obviously a reference to Leviticus 19:19:

    "Ye shall keep my statutes. Thou shalt not let thy cattle gender with a diverse kind: thou shalt not sow thy field with mingled seed: neither shall a garment mingled of linen and woolen come upon thee."



    This is probably a reference to the dietary restrictions prescribed in Leviticus 11.

    "11:3 Whatsoever parteth the hoof, and is clovenfooted, and cheweth the cud, among the beasts, that shall ye eat.
    11:4 Nevertheless these shall ye not eat of them that chew the cud, or of them that divide the hoof: as the camel, because he cheweth the cud, but divideth not the hoof; he is unclean unto you.
    1:5 And the coney, because he cheweth the cud , but divideth not the hoof; he is unclean unto you.
    1:6 And the hare, because he cheweth the cud , but divideth not the hoof; he is unclean unto you.
    11:7 And the swine, though he divide the hoof, and be clovenfooted, yet he cheweth not the cud; he is unclean to you.
    11:8 Of their flesh shall ye not eat, and their carcase shall ye not touch; they are unclean to you."


    Pretty explicit stuff, I'd say.
    Ironic that in the midst of all this, God never found time to say word one about abortion.
    But the really relevant question, in my mind is, what's your stance on shellfish?
    Because, look here:

    Lev 11:9 These shall ye eat of all that are in the waters: whatsoever hath fins and scales in the waters, in the seas, and in the rivers, them shall ye eat.
    11:10 And all that have not fins and scales in the seas, and in the rivers, of all that move in the waters, and of any living thing which is in the waters, they shall be an abomination unto you:
    11:11 They shall be even an abomination unto you; ye shall not eat of their flesh, but ye shall have their carcases in abomination.
    11:12 Whatsoever hath no fins nor scales in the waters, that shall be an abomination unto you.


    And then, blah-blah-blah, God goes on to caution followers about the moral dangers inherent in consuming ospreys, vultures, and other birds of prey.

    So, anyone: Shellfish?
    Should we boycott Red Lobster, picket Long John Silver's?
    Dear God, won't somebody please think of the children!!
    That is probably because in those days a woman did not kill the baby in her womb.......Life may have been more precious then it is now.......
    "God Bless Our Troops in Harms Way."

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    Re: Can you call yourself Christian and be Pro Abortion/Choice?

    Quote Originally Posted by Navy Pride View Post
    That is probably because in those days a woman did not kill the baby in her womb.......Life may have been more precious then it is now.......
    Wrong.
    There is evidence that abortion was common in ancient Rome; in ancient Egypt, it was practiced for more than two and a half thousand years before the birth of Christ.
    The history of abortion, according to anthropologists, dates back to ancient times. Historically, pregnancies were terminated through a number of methods, including the administration of abortifacient herbs, the use of sharpened implements, the application of abdominal pressure, and other techniques.

    Abortion timeline:

    2600 BC –First recorded recipe for an abortifacient drug.

    1850 BC –Egyptians record recipe for contraceptive pessaries, one made from crocodile dung.

    4th Century AD –St.Augustine lays down Catholic dogma sanctioning abortion up to 80 days for female fetus and up to 40 days for male fetus.

    13th Century AD -St.Thomas Aquinas states Catholic dogma justifying sexual intercourse only for procreation.

    1564 AD -Italian anatomist, Fallopius, discoverer of Fallopian tubes, publicizes condoms as anti-venereal disease devices.

    1588 – Pope Sixtus forbids all abortions.

    1591 – Pope Gregory XIV rescinds Pope Sixtus’ edict against abortion.

    1803 – Great Britain makes abortion a misdemeanor.


    But don't worry; the bible doesn't have much to say about rape, either; and in fact it implicitly condones slavery.
    Apparently, God was too busy focusing on minutiae- such as preventing people from eating ospreys and wearing polyester- to really pay that much attention to the pressing human rights issues of the day.

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    Re: Can you call yourself Christian and be Pro Abortion/Choice?

    Quote Originally Posted by 1069 View Post
    Wrong.
    There is evidence that abortion was common in ancient Rome; in ancient Egypt, it was practiced for more than two and a half thousand years before the birth of Christ.
    The history of abortion, according to anthropologists, dates back to ancient times. Historically, pregnancies were terminated through a number of methods, including the administration of abortifacient herbs, the use of sharpened implements, the application of abdominal pressure, and other techniques.

    Abortion timeline:

    2600 BC –First recorded recipe for an abortifacient drug.

    1850 BC –Egyptians record recipe for contraceptive pessaries, one made from crocodile dung.

    4th Century AD –St.Augustine lays down Catholic dogma sanctioning abortion up to 80 days for female fetus and up to 40 days for male fetus.

    13th Century AD -St.Thomas Aquinas states Catholic dogma justifying sexual intercourse only for procreation.

    1564 AD -Italian anatomist, Fallopius, discoverer of Fallopian tubes, publicizes condoms as anti-venereal disease devices.

    1588 – Pope Sixtus forbids all abortions.

    1591 – Pope Gregory XIV rescinds Pope Sixtus’ edict against abortion.

    1803 – Great Britain makes abortion a misdemeanor.


    But don't worry; the bible doesn't have much to say about rape, either; and in fact it implicitly condones slavery.
    Apparently, God was too busy focusing on minutiae- such as preventing people from eating ospreys and wearing polyester- to really pay that much attention to the pressing human rights issues of the day.
    If you think that Jesus Christ would not be pro life and anti abortion then you live in a fantasy world my friend.....................

    Why do you hate Christianity so much?
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    Re: Can you call yourself Christian and be Pro Abortion/Choice?

    Quote Originally Posted by Caine View Post
    Yes, I believe you can.
    Nowhere in the Tanach are there any statements forbiding such an act.
    Nowhere in the Gospels of Jesus are there any statements forbiding such an act.

    And, lets rephrase your OP.

    Genocide?
    Lets see. An Embryo is....
    A nationality? No
    A Racial Group? No
    A Political Group? No
    A cultural group? No
    Niether was Anne Frank by herself. But when there are millions of Anne Franks and millions of unborn children............

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    Re: Can you call yourself Christian and be Pro Abortion/Choice?

    Quote Originally Posted by 1069 View Post
    Wrong.
    There is evidence that abortion was common in ancient Rome; in ancient Egypt, it was practiced for more than two and a half thousand years before the birth of Christ.
    The history of abortion, according to anthropologists, dates back to ancient times. Historically, pregnancies were terminated through a number of methods, including the administration of abortifacient herbs, the use of sharpened implements, the application of abdominal pressure, and other techniques.

    Abortion timeline:

    2600 BC –First recorded recipe for an abortifacient drug.

    1850 BC –Egyptians record recipe for contraceptive pessaries, one made from crocodile dung.

    4th Century AD –St.Augustine lays down Catholic dogma sanctioning abortion up to 80 days for female fetus and up to 40 days for male fetus.

    13th Century AD -St.Thomas Aquinas states Catholic dogma justifying sexual intercourse only for procreation.

    1564 AD -Italian anatomist, Fallopius, discoverer of Fallopian tubes, publicizes condoms as anti-venereal disease devices.

    1588 – Pope Sixtus forbids all abortions.

    1591 – Pope Gregory XIV rescinds Pope Sixtus’ edict against abortion.

    1803 – Great Britain makes abortion a misdemeanor.


    But don't worry; the bible doesn't have much to say about rape, either; and in fact it implicitly condones slavery.
    Apparently, God was too busy focusing on minutiae- such as preventing people from eating ospreys and wearing polyester- to really pay that much attention to the pressing human rights issues of the day.
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    Re: Can you call yourself Christian and be Pro Abortion/Choice?

    Quote Originally Posted by Southern Belle View Post
    >____< Any intimacy outside of marriage is a sin in the new testiment.

    Well, then. Huh.

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