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    Re: Can you call yourself Christian and be Pro Abortion/Choice?

    of course you can be christian and be pro choice. i don't think to be christian means that you can't in human rights and allow woman to make rights for themselves.

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    Re: Can you call yourself Christian and be Pro Abortion/Choice?

    Quote Originally Posted by 26 X World Champs View Post
    Let me get this straight? In YOUR world anyone who is Pro-Choice is NOT a Christian...anyone? So the MAJORITY of Americans are not Christian by your standard therefore Christians can stop trying to impose their personal beliefs unto our government, i.e. being anti-choice or pro prayer in school?

    BTW - I'm a Jew so I find all of this litmus testing to be a Christian quite interesting. So where does that leave me, as a Jew in your world? Do you know that Jewish people do not believe in life after death...we believe in Heaven on Earth...that the memories one leaves of oneself equate to Heaven. When I think of my Dad who passed away almost 20 years ago his memory, his life, his teachings, his love are all alive in me and have been "reborn" if you will in my children, one of whom was 1 year old when he died and the other one was not yet born but they know my Dad, what he looked like, what he did in his life, what his parents did and what sort of man he was...that is how Jews believe in Heaven by perpetuating and celebrating the life of someone who has passed.

    So if you think (and I don't know if you do or not) that all Jews are going to "hell" simply for being Jewish or all humans who live in parts of the world that Christianity has never touched are also going to hell then I think that view of religion is as mutated as the so-called fanatical religions that Christians seem to snub their nose at...like when Doughgirl calls everyone she disagrees with "PAGAN" and she uses it as a slur, a put-down a personal attack...
    You can be a christian just not a good one if you advocate slaughter in the womb
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    Re: Can you call yourself Christian and be Pro Abortion/Choice?

    Quote Originally Posted by nort_12345 View Post
    of course you can be christian and be pro choice. i don't think to be christian means that you can't in human rights and allow woman to make rights for themselves.
    What about the rights of the innocent defenseless baby in the womb????
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    Re: Can you call yourself Christian and be Pro Abortion/Choice?

    Quote Originally Posted by 26 X World Champs View Post
    So you don't vote in the primary????

    I can't vote for whom I want too unless I register with that party....
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    Re: Can you call yourself Christian and be Pro Abortion/Choice?

    Quote Originally Posted by Navy Pride View Post
    You can be a christian just not a good one if you advocate slaughter in the womb
    That's an interesting thing to say. NP over here, good ole NP, is not only judging whether or not you can call yourself Christian, but to the degree of "goodness" that you'll be at, depending on your political beliefs.

    It's not a drive-through. No one here is God, no one here is infallible, and no one here has the right to judge whether or not someone else can be a good Christian or not. To infer as such is, IMO, blatantly insulting and elitist. I'll talk to my God & Savior privately and look to my Church for guidance, not you, NP.
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    Re: Can you call yourself Christian and be Pro Abortion/Choice?

    26 X world Champs said, “You actually have the "sense" to be religiously against abortion but pro-death penalty and to compound that convoluted thinking you get to judge for yourself what is religiously proper and what is not...you ignore the parts of the Bible that you disagree with....WOO HOO! WOO HOO!”

    What parts is he ignoring could you give specifics?


    Anyone who truly calls themselves Christian and who knows and stands on scripture could not be pro-abortion. If you did a deductive Bible study on this you would see that the overwhelming evidence is on the side of life and Gods love for children both out of the womb and in the womb.

    Sure I guess you could claim that you’re a Christian and still be pro-choice, but it goes against what God says. You can claim you’re a Christian and commit adultery, steal, kill, lust but it still remains wrong by scripture.

    Standing in a garage doesn’t make you a car, anymore than sitting in church makes one a Christian.


    IMO Christians who claim to be pro-choice……DO NOT READ,KNOW, STUDY OR PRAY ON SCRIPTURE. I hate to say this but I think the majority of Christians today are in name only. Its minimal head knowledge and no heart knowledge.

    Who cares what the poll says, its one sided on here anyway. A few conservative Christians against a majority of non-religious liberals.



    “Originally Posted by Kandahar
    Let's just say that I follow the morals of Jesus, as described in the Bible, better than most people who call themselves Christians do.”

    Lets put it this way……as Christians we are told that we can judge actions and NOT HEARTS, NOT EVEN OUR OWN. Are you judging people here?
    I think we are told not to judge one another, something the Bible condemns (Romans 14:10; James 4:11) In Luke 6:41,42 Jesus speaks of seeing a speck in a brother’s eye. In John 7:24 He said, "Judge not according to the appearance, but judge righteous judgment."
    I’d be careful about how you boast, its not Christ-like at all.



    “Let me get this straight? In YOUR world anyone who is Pro-Choice is NOT a Christian...anyone? So the MAJORITY of Americans are not Christian by your standard therefore Christians can stop trying to impose their personal beliefs unto our government, i.e. being anti-choice or pro prayer in school?”
    I think you are right…….that the majority of Christians in the United States don’t stand on scripture, like I said they are Christian in name only. They do not put Christs teaching into PRACTICE.

    “So if you think (and I don't know if you do or not) that all Jews are going to "hell" simply for being Jewish or all humans who live in parts of the world that Christianity has never touched are also going to hell then I think that view of religion is as mutated as the so-called fanatical religions that Christians seem to snub their nose at...like when Doughgirl calls everyone she disagrees with "PAGAN" and she uses it as a slur, a put-down a personal attack…”

    What is the definition of the word pagan? I do not call everyone a pagan and I do not use it as a put down. You read the definition, what does it say?
    http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/pagan


    The New Testament records what Jesus said.


    He did not say, “I am a way”; He said, “I am the way.” So is there any other way?

    In John 14:6 Christ said, "I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me.

    So do you need to believe in Christ by His own admission to go to heaven?

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    Re: Can you call yourself Christian and be Pro Abortion/Choice?

    Quote Originally Posted by Skip View Post
    That's an interesting thing to say. NP over here, good ole NP, is not only judging whether or not you can call yourself Christian, but to the degree of "goodness" that you'll be at, depending on your political beliefs.

    It's not a drive-through. No one here is God, no one here is infallible, and no one here has the right to judge whether or not someone else can be a good Christian or not. To infer as such is, IMO, blatantly insulting and elitist. I'll talk to my God & Savior privately and look to my Church for guidance, not you, NP.
    Its just common sense my left wing friend you can call yourself a Christian and believe its ok to butcher innocent babies in the womb then you are not a good Christian.........I did not make it up.Its a fact..................
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    Re: Can you call yourself Christian and be Pro Abortion/Choice?

    Quote Originally Posted by doughgirl View Post
    Anyone who truly calls themselves Christian and who knows and stands on scripture could not be pro-abortion. If you did a deductive Bible study on this you would see that the overwhelming evidence is on the side of life and Gods love for children both out of the womb and in the womb.

    Sure I guess you could claim that you’re a Christian and still be pro-choice, but it goes against what God says. You can claim you’re a Christian and commit adultery, steal, kill, lust but it still remains wrong by scripture.
    Pro-abortion =/= pro-choice. Good that we've cleared that up.

    Quote Originally Posted by doughgirl View Post
    IMO Christians who claim to be pro-choice……DO NOT READ,KNOW, STUDY OR PRAY ON SCRIPTURE.
    Who cares what the poll says, its one sided on here anyway. A few conservative Christians against a majority of non-religious liberals.
    IMO A person on an online message board who claims to know what millions of people do or do not do to form their religious or political beliefs is laughable.

    And obviously we have another ignorer of statistics, the divide here is fairly even with the advantage toward the conservative side of the spectrum.

    Quote Originally Posted by doughgirl View Post
    Lets put it this way……as Christians we are told that we can judge actions and NOT HEARTS, NOT EVEN OUR OWN. Are you judging people here?
    My heart tells me that, as a Christian, I'd rather have the ability for a woman to abort a sub-human fetus rather than suffer through the worst year of her life before committing suicide, or before being coerced into birthing a child and providing a negligent level of care for the child.
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    Re: Can you call yourself Christian and be Pro Abortion/Choice?

    Quote Originally Posted by Navy Pride View Post
    Its just common sense my left wing friend you can call yourself a Christian and believe its ok to butcher innocent babies in the womb then you are not a good Christian.........I did not make it up.Its a fact..................
    Oh - well sorry if I was unclear, but I'm sure I never said I believed it was OK to butcher innocent babies, much less if they were in a womb somewhere. I hope I cleared that up well enough.
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    Re: Can you call yourself Christian and be Pro Abortion/Choice?

    Quote Originally Posted by Skip View Post
    Oh - well sorry if I was unclear, but I'm sure I never said I believed it was OK to butcher innocent babies, much less if they were in a womb somewhere. I hope I cleared that up well enough.
    Then you must be pro life and anti choice abortion.....
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