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    Re: Another Iraq War Poll

    Quote Originally Posted by Cephus View Post
    Of course, it was never about terrorism, it was never about weapons of mass destruction, it was Bush's personal vendetta against the guys who tried to kill his daddy. We spent many billions of dollars on a personal vendetta.
    I honestly don't know if it was that (I think it unlikely) or if it was some kind of maneuver to gain power in the Mideast. Personally, I think Iran and Iraq fighting among themselves for generations was a good balance at the east end. It was also a damn poor strategy to take on a double war.
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    Re: Another Iraq War Poll

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
    Please add poll option "get over it".
    Better ammend that to "Get over it, no need to concern yourself over the pointless loss of 4k soldiers and $2 trillion"

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    Re: Another Iraq War Poll

    Quote Originally Posted by MoSurveyor View Post
    He wasn't just concerned about their presence in Iraq, he used it as an excess to prop up support for the war at home by claiming, often, that they were planning other attacks on the US - and not just inside Iraq, just as the links show. He shouldn't have called it the "War on Terror", he should have called it "The Propaganda of Fear". It would have been a better description.
    AlQ was in Iraq and, while they could not hit us themself, they were planing attacks on the US. Do you deny this?

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    Quote Originally Posted by MoSurveyor View Post
    He wasn't just concerned about their presence in Iraq, he used it as an excess to prop up support for the war at home by claiming, often, that they were planning other attacks on the US - and not just inside Iraq, just as the links show. He shouldn't have called it the "War on Terror", he should have called it "The Propaganda of Fear". It would have been a better description.
    AlQ was in Iraq and, while not able to strike the US themself, they were planning attacks on the US. Do you deny this?

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    Re: Another Iraq War Poll

    Quote Originally Posted by MoSurveyor View Post
    He wasn't just concerned about their presence in Iraq, he used it as an excess to prop up support for the war at home by claiming, often, that they were planning other attacks on the US - and not just inside Iraq, just as the links show. He shouldn't have called it the "War on Terror", he should have called it "The Propaganda of Fear". It would have been a better description.
    AlQ was in Iraq and, while not able to strike the US themself, they were planning stuff. Do you deny this?

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    Re: Another Iraq War Poll

    Quote Originally Posted by Cephus View Post
    Of course, it was never about terrorism, it was never about weapons of mass destruction, it was Bush's personal vendetta against the guys who tried to kill his daddy. We spent many billions of dollars on a personal vendetta.
    I can't believe anyone could ignore 17 violated unscrs, two genocides, firing on the no-fly zone instituted to stop genocide, the invasion of Iran and Kuwait, institutionalized rape, starving 400k children and faking a WMD program.


    A historic election will take place tomorrow in Iraq. And as millions of Iraqis prepare to cast their ballots, I want to talk today about why we went into Iraq, why we stayed in Iraq, and why we cannot -- and will not -- leave Iraq until victory is achieved….

    We removed Saddam Hussein from power because he was a threat to our security. He had pursued and used weapons of mass destruction. He sponsored terrorists. He ordered his military to shoot at American and British pilots patrolling the no-fly zones. He invaded his neighbors. He fought a war against the United States and a broad coalition. He had declared that the United States of America was his enemy.

    Over the course of a decade, Saddam Hussein refused to comply with more than a dozen United Nations resolutions -- including demands that he respect the rights of the Iraqi people, disclose his weapons, and abide by the terms of a 1991 cease-fire. He deceived international inspectors, and he denied them the unconditional access they needed to do their jobs. When a unanimous Security Council gave him one final chance to disclose and disarm, or face serious consequences, he refused to comply with that final opportunity. At any point along the way, Saddam Hussein could have avoided war by complying with the just demands of the international community. The United States did not choose war -- the choice was Saddam Hussein’s….

    As I stated in a speech in the lead-up to the war, a liberated Iraq could show the power of freedom to transform the Middle East by bringing hope and progress to the lives of millions…. History has shown that free nations are peaceful nations. And as Iraqi democracy takes hold, Iraqi citizens will have a stake in a common and peaceful future.
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    And yesterday, Iraqis voted again:

    Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki urged people to vote in defiance of "enemies of the political process".

    "I say to all those who are afraid for the future of Iraq and afraid of a return of violence and dictatorship that we will fight by casting ballots," he said.

    On polling day, some voters said their main concern was still the security situation.

    "Security is the most important problem that all of them should be working for; without this, life would be so difficult," said student Abdulsahib Ali Abdulsahib, who was out early to vote in central Baghdad.
    I asked Haider - an enthusiastic voter - why he thought the turnout was low. He said that people were afraid of violence. "But I would not let that put me off. I don't want to lose my vote and my right - it's a battle and we have to win it."
    BBC News - Iraq in first vote since US pullout



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    Re: Another Iraq War Poll

    Quote Originally Posted by MoSurveyor View Post
    I honestly don't know if it was that (I think it unlikely) or if it was some kind of maneuver to gain power in the Mideast. Personally, I think Iran and Iraq fighting among themselves for generations was a good balance at the east end. It was also a damn poor strategy to take on a double war.
    People who were there, as I recall, reported that Bush immediately wanted them to find some link between 9/11 and Iraq, even if one didn't exist. He was looking for a fight and his ego cost this country many billions of dollars and thousands of lives.
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    Re: Another Iraq War Poll

    If I remember events correctly just before our decision to invade Saddam had been delaying the inspection of particular sites by UN weapon inspectors. This contributed to the idea that he did have WMDs. I think the UN should have acted but in a very different way. I feel the UN should have given him an ultimatum "comply immediately or we will remove you". However I believe they should have used a direct strategical strike against Saddam himself via a small strike force or air strike and we should never have had a large scale engagement or troops on the ground. Once he was removed and his replacement was in power we give them the same ultimatum and repeat if necessary until someone complies. Eventually they would decide they had better listen.

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    Re: Another Iraq War Poll

    Yep, I would still support it given what we know.

    I also support going into Iran and North Korea with military force.
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    Re: Another Iraq War Poll

    Quote Originally Posted by Cephus View Post
    People who were there, as I recall, reported that Bush immediately wanted them to find some link between 9/11 and Iraq, even if one didn't exist.
    Actually Bush wanted them to find out IF Iraq was behind the attacks. Which of course makes sense because Iraq was the only country we were at war with at the time.

    But a lot of people simply didn't know we were at war with Iraq because the MSM wasn't reporting it.

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