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Free Frank Warner: This is news: Bush actually lists reasons for invading IraqA historic election will take place tomorrow in Iraq. And as millions of Iraqis prepare to cast their ballots, I want to talk today about why we went into Iraq, why we stayed in Iraq, and why we cannot -- and will not -- leave Iraq until victory is achieved….
We removed Saddam Hussein from power because he was a threat to our security. He had pursued and used weapons of mass destruction. He sponsored terrorists. He ordered his military to shoot at American and British pilots patrolling the no-fly zones. He invaded his neighbors. He fought a war against the United States and a broad coalition. He had declared that the United States of America was his enemy.
Over the course of a decade, Saddam Hussein refused to comply with more than a dozen United Nations resolutions -- including demands that he respect the rights of the Iraqi people, disclose his weapons, and abide by the terms of a 1991 cease-fire. He deceived international inspectors, and he denied them the unconditional access they needed to do their jobs. When a unanimous Security Council gave him one final chance to disclose and disarm, or face serious consequences, he refused to comply with that final opportunity. At any point along the way, Saddam Hussein could have avoided war by complying with the just demands of the international community. The United States did not choose war -- the choice was Saddam Hussein’s….
As I stated in a speech in the lead-up to the war, a liberated Iraq could show the power of freedom to transform the Middle East by bringing hope and progress to the lives of millions…. History has shown that free nations are peaceful nations. And as Iraqi democracy takes hold, Iraqi citizens will have a stake in a common and peaceful future.
(strange website, I just wanted the speech quote)
And yesterday, Iraqis voted again:
Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki urged people to vote in defiance of "enemies of the political process".
"I say to all those who are afraid for the future of Iraq and afraid of a return of violence and dictatorship that we will fight by casting ballots," he said.
On polling day, some voters said their main concern was still the security situation.
"Security is the most important problem that all of them should be working for; without this, life would be so difficult," said student Abdulsahib Ali Abdulsahib, who was out early to vote in central Baghdad.BBC News - Iraq in first vote since US pulloutI asked Haider - an enthusiastic voter - why he thought the turnout was low. He said that people were afraid of violence. "But I would not let that put me off. I don't want to lose my vote and my right - it's a battle and we have to win it."
If I remember events correctly just before our decision to invade Saddam had been delaying the inspection of particular sites by UN weapon inspectors. This contributed to the idea that he did have WMDs. I think the UN should have acted but in a very different way. I feel the UN should have given him an ultimatum "comply immediately or we will remove you". However I believe they should have used a direct strategical strike against Saddam himself via a small strike force or air strike and we should never have had a large scale engagement or troops on the ground. Once he was removed and his replacement was in power we give them the same ultimatum and repeat if necessary until someone complies. Eventually they would decide they had better listen.
Yep, I would still support it given what we know.
I also support going into Iran and North Korea with military force.
Tired of elections being between the lesser of two evils.When the debate is lost, slander becomes the tool of the loser. -Socrates