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    Re: Should the government be allowed to put a city on lockdown to catch a few crimina

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    Should the government be allowed to put a city on lockdown to catch a few criminals? I say no.
    I could be wrong, but it's my understanding that the government didn't put the City of Boston and surrounding areas into a lockdown but the local police departments "requested" that residents stay inside - I believe the term is "secure in place" - to assist police and federal authorities in their search for the remaining suspect who was fleeing. I believe the city governments and the state's Governor also made the same request of the area's citizens.

    This wasn't an institution of marshal law or a mandatory curfew - it was a call for people to stay safe and let the authorities do their job without having to protect potential victims as well.

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    Re: Should the government be allowed to put a city on lockdown to catch a few crimina

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    not yet anyway
    Anyone with a smart-phone can look at the permissions the various apps have. I have 4 core apps my phone will not function without, which have permission to record sound and video without my knowledge or consent. You will find similar permissions for any browser addons you have. On-Star has similar permissions.

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    Re: Should the government be allowed to put a city on lockdown to catch a few crimina

    Quote Originally Posted by CanadaJohn View Post
    I could be wrong, but it's my understanding that the government didn't put the City of Boston and surrounding areas into a lockdown but the local police departments "requested" that residents stay inside - I believe the term is "secure in place" - to assist police and federal authorities in their search for the remaining suspect who was fleeing. I believe the city governments and the state's Governor also made the same request of the area's citizens.

    This wasn't an institution of marshal law or a mandatory curfew - it was a call for people to stay safe and let the authorities do their job without having to protect potential victims as well.
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    Gov. Deval Patrick, meanwhile, lifted an order that confined an estimated one million residents to their homes, urging people to "remain vigilant."
    Manhunt: Where is the suspected Boston Marathon bomber? - CNN.com

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    Re: Should the government be allowed to put a city on lockdown to catch a few crimina

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
    They don't need to open your home to look inside.

    This may be true but I'd prefer not having them track in the mud...

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    Re: Should the government be allowed to put a city on lockdown to catch a few crimina

    The former assistant secretary of homeland security for the state of Massachussetts referred to it as a "voluntary" lockdown. I'd like to see an actual order from the Governor that "confined" residents before I believe a report in the media - I don't have much faith in them getting it right in such situations. CNN, after all, was inaccurately reporting just the other day that suspects had been arrested.

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    Re: Should the government be allowed to put a city on lockdown to catch a few crimina

    What this may be referring to is the Governor's order shutting down all transportation services in the city.

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    Re: Should the government be allowed to put a city on lockdown to catch a few crimina

    Quote Originally Posted by CanadaJohn View Post
    The former assistant secretary of homeland security for the state of Massachussetts referred to it as a "voluntary" lockdown. I'd like to see an actual order from the Governor that "confined" residents before I believe a report in the media - I don't have much faith in them getting it right in such situations. CNN, after all, was inaccurately reporting just the other day that suspects had been arrested.
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    The day Boston became a ghost town - CNN.com


    I'd have to look for the exact "order".

    Quote Originally Posted by CanadaJohn View Post
    What this may be referring to is the Governor's order shutting down all transportation services in the city.
    It said 1 million residents were confined to their homes. Again, I'd have to research to see exactly what the "order" was.

    The bottom line is that we turned a productive city into a ghost town for a day, losing millions in business... just because of 2 people. With a few people, could I shut down half the major cities in the country? Looks like it.
    Last edited by ecofarm; 04-19-13 at 08:28 PM.

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    Re: Should the government be allowed to put a city on lockdown to catch a few crimina

    Quote Originally Posted by CanadaJohn View Post
    I could be wrong, but it's my understanding that the government didn't put the City of Boston and surrounding areas into a lockdown but the local police departments "requested" that residents stay inside - I believe the term is "secure in place" - to assist police and federal authorities in their search for the remaining suspect who was fleeing. I believe the city governments and the state's Governor also made the same request of the area's citizens.

    This wasn't an institution of marshal law or a mandatory curfew - it was a call for people to stay safe and let the authorities do their job without having to protect potential victims as well.
    Which is why I checked: No..

    The question posed in this poll asked a general question so it deserved a general answer. Which generally speaking why would anyone like the idea of locking down a entire city in order to catch a few criminals?

    But if this guy gets away and the lock down continues over night or perhaps into the next I bet there will be a huge public outcry. Some people dont keep food in their houses and some people dont have houses and a thousand other situations.

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    Re: Should the government be allowed to put a city on lockdown to catch a few crimina

    Quote Originally Posted by Surtr View Post
    A few insane fanatics that can harm a few people, no. A couple of fanatics who can kill hundreds, maybe thousands, yes.
    Depends on circumstance. Though we have almost 314 million people, so 1000/314000000 is ~.000318%
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    Re: Should the government be allowed to put a city on lockdown to catch a few crimina

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
    Anyone with a smart-phone can look at the permissions the various apps have. I have 4 core apps my phone will not function without, which have permission to record sound and video without my knowledge or consent. You will find similar permissions for any browser addons you have. On-Star has similar permissions.
    I understand that, but it does not excuse infinite government force.
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