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    Re: Does this video explain conservatism accurately?

    Quote Originally Posted by Indeed View Post
    One school of conservatism, yes. Big government, anti- or skeptical viewpoints toward free-enterprise is also a conservative philosophy.

    Arguing on behalf of the notion that people are perhaps bad would also explain why big government conservatism exists.
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    Re: Does this video explain conservatism accurately?





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    Re: Does this video explain conservatism accurately?

    Quote Originally Posted by Fiddytree View Post
    One school of conservatism, yes. Big government, anti- or skeptical viewpoints toward free-enterprise is also a conservative philosophy.

    Arguing on behalf of the notion that people are perhaps bad would also explain why big government conservatism exists.
    I don't think that any American conservatism calls for big gov't. If you would kindly elaborate...
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    Re: Does this video explain conservatism accurately?

    Quote Originally Posted by Indeed View Post
    Then we are talking about different versions. Progressivism tends to favor greater government intervention in daily life, which leads to socialism, which, according to Marx, is only a step towards communism.
    It also leads to social progress, such as equality for women and minorities - or at least the removal of legislative and social barriers to progress in those areas. And Socialism does not lead to Communism - otherwise you'd have half the countries in the world, including all of Scandanavia, Marxist.
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    Re: Does this video explain conservatism accurately?

    Quote Originally Posted by Indeed View Post
    I don't think that any American conservatism calls for big gov't. If you would kindly elaborate...
    Well, aside from much of American conservative history (Federalists, Whigs, Early and post-Civil War GOP, and so on and so forth)......

    Hawkish foreign policy conservatives, domestic policy neoconservatives, Bush "compassionate conservatism," Theoconservatives, Culture warriors.....

    For the sake of argument, a decent chunk of the Tea Party.
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    Re: Does this video explain conservatism accurately?

    Quote Originally Posted by Neomalthusian View Post
    I think this video nails the philosophical underpinnings of conservatism.

    This may be less entertaining, but it also may explain it better. Well written, simple, and makes sense.
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    Re: Does this video explain conservatism accurately?

    His video on American exceptionalism is also equating American exceptionalism with exclusively greatness. While that is an important part of it, there is a great deal more about it.
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    Re: Does this video explain conservatism accurately?

    Quote Originally Posted by Indeed View Post
    I don't think that any American conservatism calls for big gov't. If you would kindly elaborate...
    This is where it gets tricky..."small government" conservatives under Bush like Paul Ryan were voting for his big government agenda.

    Small government conservatives have passed things like a Doctor isn't allowed to ask a patient if they own a gun, pregnant women are forced to get ultrasounds before an abortion, they've supported laws to create a state religion, they always pushed for more spending on the military....honestly if you believe in small government and are afraid of a government take over how do you support a military anywhere the size of ours.

    Small government how? States rights? It was the Federal Government that ended segregation and ended slavery.

    Small government as in less government intervention across the board? Do you agree or disagree with the Sherman Anti-Trust Act? The creation of national parks? So that Yellowstone is open to the public and kept clean rather than surrounded by touristy high rises?

    What does exceptionalism mean? I've seen it used as a stick to beat to criticism of the government. Why do conservatives tend to label things like "anti-american" or "doesn't believe in exceptionalism" at persons that disagree with the actions of a government. Doesn't exceptionalism take work? Like sometimes you have to criticize the government in order to meen any idea of exceptionalism?

    Edit: I also think this guy spends a lot of time attacking views of a very small % of the population...or at least creating broad generalizations for the "other side".
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    Re: Does this video explain conservatism accurately?

    Quote Originally Posted by Indeed View Post
    Then we are talking about different versions. Progressivism tends to favor greater government intervention in daily life, which leads to socialism, which, according to Marx, is only a step towards communism.
    Yeah, but your most important progressive impulse in the United States was nearly antithetical to Marxism. It didn't subscribe to his stage theory.
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    Re: Does this video explain conservatism accurately?

    Quote Originally Posted by Neomalthusian View Post
    I think this video nails the philosophical underpinnings of conservatism.

    The video you posted is vary close, if not exactly, what the founding father wanted the U.S.A. to be. We have strayed far from that path. Now it is our duty to get back to it.
    You can refine anything in it's pure form to use for good or evil. This goes for everything, not just materials.

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