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    Re: Does this video explain conservatism accurately?

    Sorry, not going to watch a 10 minute video as a teaser-OP by a noob not saying anything about it.

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    Re: Does this video explain conservatism accurately?

    Does the video point out modern American conservatism is essentially an exercise in justifying the sociopathic tendencies of many conservatives?

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    Re: Does this video explain conservatism accurately?

    Quote Originally Posted by Bonzai View Post
    My point is the Tea Party, and conservatives are very vocal about what they are against, but they become, of necessity, evasive about what they like, because they aren't for freedom, they are just against anyone running the show but themselves........................
    Not true. There are those trying to hijack the Tea party label for their gain. Also keep in mind, very few republican politicians are real conservative. Most of them, I call RINO's. They just aren't as liberal as democrats. There are even democrat voters joining the Tea Party movements.

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    Re: Does this video explain conservatism accurately?

    Quote Originally Posted by Sheik Yerbuti View Post
    So the Tea Party is for those then?
    Why don't you look it up?
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    Re: Does this video explain conservatism accurately?

    Quote Originally Posted by Fiddytree View Post
    Well, aside from much of American conservative history (Federalists, Whigs, Early and post-Civil War GOP, and so on and so forth)......

    Hawkish foreign policy conservatives, domestic policy neoconservatives, Bush "compassionate conservatism," Theoconservatives, Culture warriors.....

    For the sake of argument, a decent chunk of the Tea Party.
    I know a lot of conservatives, and exactly zero of them have expressed any wish for more government, well at least not federal gov't. State gov't I could easily imagine, but not federal.
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    RE: Does this video explain conservatism accurately?

    ....and its the premise on which socialist democracy operates. Too bad they don't understand that belief is destructive to true liberty.

    Libertarians are shallow thinkers??? Guess I need big gubment to tell me what to do now.

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    His entire point is that the existence of things like rape, murder, theft, etc is proof that natural rights is wrong. It's the same argument people like him always make and have been making since the 18th century.

    I doubt they will ever see that it was largely the point.
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    Re: Does this video explain conservatism accurately?

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    The facts
    We can debate those all day if you wish.

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    Re: Does this video explain conservatism accurately?

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    Why don't you look it up?
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    Re: Does this video explain conservatism accurately?

    Quote Originally Posted by falcata View Post
    Marx's "Socialism" described in the transitions of Communism is not actual Socialism, but just a title Marx used for his thesis. Marx could never clearly describe true Socialism and the closest he came was in the final stage of Communism he described.

    Socialism itself is still a broader subject than just Marx's and Engle's manifesto. Effectively Marx's perfect Communism is equal to a general perfect Socialism.

    So you were right in the specifics to Marx, I was just thinking too broadly.

    Well every moderate step you could say is a watered down version of it's extreme alternative. I see many parallels to Anarchy and libertarianism just as you see parallels between Progressivism and Socialism. I still appreciate freedom and believe it is something that we should preserve and cherish, but at the same time I feel we need to take appropriate actions to make sure the irresponsible actions of a few don't have negatives consequences for the many.
    You make a good point. Here's the way I sort of see it.

    Anarchy is an extreme of libertarianism, but their basic premises arent the same. Libertarians believe government had a specific, narrowly defined role to play. Anarchists believe government has zero roles to play and must be completely eliminated. Different premises, similar conclusion- shrink government.

    However, I find that Marx's premises and the premises of progressivism are mostly the same. Marx created the premises for progressivism. They just differ on the "revolutionary" concept and the conclusions differ alittle.

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    Re: Does this video explain conservatism accurately?

    Quote Originally Posted by Indeed View Post
    I know a lot of conservatives, and exactly zero of them have expressed any wish for more government, well at least not federal gov't. State gov't I could easily imagine, but not federal.
    Listen more carefully. Could their stance on social issues call for more federal regulation? Could their stance on educational progress be considered on a national, rather than state, level? Do they consider the Great Society-era programs largely good? How do they wish to conduct the War on Terror?

    I am not one to argue against the concept of bigger government, so I do not take it as a bad thing in of itself.
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