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    Re: Would you marry a stripper?

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post

    That is up to a child's parent (s) though. The relationship is totally different between a child/parent and child/teacher. A child is (hopefully) NOT going to develop a crush on his mom because she is a stripper. Do you see the difference there? A son or daughter is not going to be phased that their dad goes to a strip club if he does so regularly and that is behavior they have become accustomed to. It is different with children who are NOT exposed to such behavior, and that is something to keep in mind here.
    So now the problem is that a teacher might cause students to become attracted to them? I guess we have to fire all the good looking teachers then

    Or is the problem now that a teacher engages in activities that the students are not accustomed to? In which case, fire any teacher that goes to renassaince fairs.

    One of the benefits of going to school is socialization. Children need to learn that what other people do, even if it's something they're not used to, doesn't relieve them of their responsibilities to do well in school


    No! This has nothing to do with male or female but being a distraction in what should be a distraction-free (or at least as close as we can get it) environment in order for children to learn. This is NOT about doing favors for a former or current stripper to help her better herself but is about what is best for children and their learning environment.
    No, children must learn self-control. You can't blame a child's inability to focus on the teacher.


    You yourself before have told me that there are no connotations between sexuality and nudism. That is NOT the case with stripping. You MUST know this. Stop playing it off as if there is no sexuality involved in stripping.
    And children understand all about nudist camps

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    Re: Would you marry a stripper?

    A woman being or having been a stripper doesn't mean she's a porn video to the children in school.

    People on this thread seem to keep converting exotic dancing to something else - prostitution or being a porn video star. That is somethinq quite different.

    Now and then I've commented that my wife was in major national and international competitions for many years starting at a very young age, and in cheerleading/pep squad - and then of course those scant outfits worn for all of that. One time I asked if she sometimes felt like a strip dancer and if there was any sexuality implications even in calculating her routines?

    She said that is a lot about sex and suggestiveness - although is strictly supposed to be atheletics, but with an abstract set of limitations in which the girls don't overtly make it look like she's trying to be seductive or making sexual suggestions. For certain types of competitions - again all athletic but judged - she significantly changed her body language in those routines depending upon whether the judge was male or female. If a man/men she shifted towards being "cute," "flighty," and with very suggestive body and facial language. If a woman/women, then serious minded and with little expression trying to downplay any suggestions of sexuality. If a mixed group of judges, she counted whether it was more men than women.

    For one competition, she learned all 3 judges were older men - very rare for women's competitions. And she knew she was up against some of the best competitors in the world, so she entirely changed her routine's intro for the finals. The first 15 seconds or so she was so skillfully sexually suggestive that most exotic dancers couldn't have come close to matching her - and if she had continued likely they would have stopped her. But all she had done in her strategy was to plant the seed and then go on to her regular routine of which she also was incredibly skilled. She got 3 perfect 10s! If a young teenage girl gives older men an errection and they'll vote and she's perfect?

    There are very few women who do not try to promote and sell themselves with sexual attractiveness - the entire makeup and fashion industry is built around this - as is much of the media.

    There is that saying: "Ultimately, everything is about sex."

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    Re: Would you marry a stripper?

    Quote Originally Posted by joko104 View Post
    A woman being or having been a stripper doesn't mean she's a porn video to the children in school.

    People on this thread seem to keep converting exotic dancing to something else - prostitution or being a porn video star. That is somethinq quite different.

    Now and then I've commented that my wife was in major national and international competitions for many years starting at a very young age, and in cheerleading/pep squad - and then of course those scant outfits worn for all of that. One time I asked if she sometimes felt like a strip dancer and if there was any sexuality implications even in calculating her routines?

    She said that is a lot about sex and suggestiveness - although is strictly supposed to be atheletics, but with an abstract set of limitations in which the girls don't overtly make it look like she's trying to be seductive or making sexual suggestions. For certain types of competitions - again all athletic but judged - she significantly changed her body language in those routines depending upon whether the judge was male or female. If a man/men she shifted towards being "cute," "flighty," and with very suggestive body and facial language. If a woman/women, then serious minded and with little expression trying to downplay any suggestions of sexuality. If a mixed group of judges, she counted whether it was more men than women.

    For one competition, she learned all 3 judges were older men - very rare for women's competitions. And she knew she was up against some of the best competitors in the world, so she entirely changed her routine's intro for the finals. The first 15 seconds or so she was so skillfully sexually suggestive that most exotic dancers couldn't have come close to matching her - and if she had continued likely they would have stopped her. But all she had done in her strategy was to plant the seed and then go on to her regular routine of which she also was incredibly skilled. She got 3 perfect 10s! If a young teenage girl gives older men an errection and they'll vote and she's perfect?

    There are very few women who do not try to promote and sell themselves with sexual attractiveness - the entire makeup and fashion industry is built around this - as is much of the media.

    There is that saying: "Ultimately, everything is about sex."
    Good God! I just had to log in and say that all of the above is bull crap. I was a cheerleader. Yes, sometimes the routines might look sexy, but they are NOTHING like the moves that a stripper does! I know what is acceptable to a school as far as cheering routines go.

    Scant outfits and dance moves are NOT the same as being in a strip club taking off your clothes for strange men for payment. Now, I don't hold that against them. People do what they feel they need to do, so who am I to judge, but this is getting completely stupid now.

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    Re: Would you marry a stripper?

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    PS - Please clean up your quotes
    Ah, no. I wasn't even addressing you.

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    Re: Would you marry a stripper?

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post
    Ah, no. I wasn't even addressing you.
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    Re: Would you marry a stripper?

    Quote Originally Posted by spanky View Post
    Just askin'.
    Sure, why not. As long as my wife doesn't mind.

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    Re: Would you marry a stripper?

    Quote Originally Posted by Risky Thicket View Post
    Point taken. I don't know that I went to a strip club after my kids were born, but if I did, I certainly didn't tell them about it.
    Well, you probably wouldn't tell them, but there is always the possibility that they could find out. Word travels. But more than likely, your child would say "gross Dad!" and not be preoccupied with the thought.



    No, meaning the coach gets a pass?
    Of course not. I said it has nothing to do with gender but certain behaviors.


    Actually, I don't think I said there are no connotations between sexuality and nudism. I think the connotations are greater outside the fence than inside. As far as men are concerned anytime a female is involved there is some measure of sexuality. I think what I said was that after the initial introduction it is not really about sex at all. In the 3 times I went to a resort with an former girlfriend I can honestly say I saw maybe 3 women who could make money stripping. Naked people in general are not strip club quality. Add to that that most of the people I saw were at least in their 40s.
    Well, my point is that sexuality is the point in a strip club. It isn't just about nudism.



    Don't be snippy! My anecdote had a purpose. Teachers are surprisingly human and just as moral or immoral as anyone else.
    Sorry, I was kidding. I thought the smiley face would make that obvious. And it is still not the same situation. A private sex life is different than working as a stripper.

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    Re: Would you marry a stripper?

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    Smartest thing you said in a long time. But that's not a high hurdle to go over
    Easy enough to take care of, just don't respond to my posts anymore. I might be sad for a little while, but I'm sure I'll recover.

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    Re: Would you marry a stripper?

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post
    Easy enough to take care of, just don't respond to my posts anymore. I might be sad for a little while, but I'm sure I'll recover.
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    Re: Would you marry a stripper?

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post
    Good God! I just had to log in and say that all of the above is bull crap. I was a cheerleader. Yes, sometimes the routines might look sexy, but they are NOTHING like the moves that a stripper does! I know what is acceptable to a school as far as cheering routines go.

    Scant outfits and dance moves are NOT the same as being in a strip club taking off your clothes for strange men for payment. Now, I don't hold that against them. People do what they feel they need to do, so who am I to judge, but this is getting completely stupid now.
    Different moves, but in some ways the same attraction. However, I was not referring to her routines as a cheerleader. Rather just about what cheerleaders wear. She competed in Rymthmics, Rymthmic Gymnastics, Gymnastics, Baton and other related competitions very, very seriously from age 8 to 19.

    Apparently the judging of some of those competitions is highly subjective and abstract as to what constitutes "the best." It's not absolute measures like who runs the 100 meters the fastest. Rather, aesthetics comes into play. In that competition she was trying a new field of competition for the first time that is particularly open to styles and measures, was the youngest, and the resumee's of the competition went off the chart. Anyway, I was just stating her opinions of it - and she was the most "innocent" and churchy teen anyone could ever meet. But she also competed to win too.

    I don't think it a stretch that men may give higher marks for suggestions of feminine attraction while women judges might mark it down instead. I would guess it has a lot to do with overall impression and even subliminal suggestion. She had her own style and it tended to be she started slow, then did some suprise dazzling thing, then took it back down and built to some amazing conclusion. I won't put any of that online of course, but the level of skill she portrayed in her bit of highly suggestive action was extraordinary of itself. In a sense, she showed a female doesn't have to remove any clothing at all to be extremely desireable in "dance" and that the skill of that routine greatly adds to the seductiveness.

    As I've stated myself by my own observations, pole dancing is cheesy and easy. The club I was at didn't have a pole.

    I do not think it is getting "stupid" at all. Television, and not just advertising, often is highly focused on sexual attraction as is television in general. Makeup is about physical attraction, not for health, and overall fashion and appearance marketing and purchasing for women is substantially diffferent than for men.

    Do I think a cheerleader and a stripper are the same? Of course not. But, then, I also don't define a stripper as a prostitute or porn star either.

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