Yes, if I believed she truly loved me for me and not because I was saving her.
No, nothing but trouble there.
'What kind of sick and twisted toy factory is this?'
'We are all the sum of our tears. Too little and the ground is not fertile, and nothing can grow there. Too much, the best of us is washed away.'
"Better to be dead and cool, than alive and uncool."
Forums are funny. For myself, I explained some of the odds and realities likely found in terms of exotic dancers. I suppose my view is somewhat rare in that I actually believe they are as highly diverse in nature as about any other category of employment you can find.
Don't be shocked. Not many men are going to post they dated a stripper and got conned out of a bunch of $$ and dumped.
What strikes ME about the forum is I wonder how any culture could possibly tolerate or evolve to Sharia law where women are covered in Burkas so not man can see her and be tempted by her husband. And then I read the messages on this thread and then it is not so hard to understand.
These bizarre cultural norms are just that - bizarrre - and fortunately we have rule of law and the Supreme Court mostly on the side of freedom, ie "porn" as an example.
You can go to any beach with young women and you will essentially be at a strip club. I suppose you technically don't see the tip of their nipples - just the complete imprint of them - but otherwise it is EXACTLY what you will see at a strip show. The ONLY difference is there aren't any obese, old, naggly, slough shouldered clumpsy women on the beach. BUT not ONE of those women need be wearing a bikini - she's showing it off the same as those women on the catwalk. And the men are looking - but don't want their wives or girlfriend to see him doing it.
The bizarre often faux and contradictory social normals - to which massive moral judgements are attached NOT for what the person is doing, but whether the person is with the right range at the right time at the right setting. Hell, 1/4th of television is essentially continously flashing little strip shows.
The claim that stripper = hookers is outright false. A stripper gets far more money of men than the prostitutes that work titty bars.
You assert the dancers could find good paying jobs and seemingly that they don't like what they do. Of the latter, unless you never wear makeup, only get your hair cut at the $8 shop and never deck out - then you too like men to see you as feminine attractive (or women if that's your interests).
Of the club I was at, few of those young women could have gotten anything but a part-time job at some cheap restaurant. Saying if a person tries really hard the person can get a decent job is a very popular middle class suburban and generally white thing to say. But I dunno, would you be willing to live in your car for a couple of years while you tried to learn a way out of an impoverished ghetto where you were raised by an alcoholic welfare mother who brought men over because he might get a few bucks and a few drinks out of it? And if you did, think it'd really work?
To which we come to the next white middle class suburban value of "those people did it to themselves by being lazy" - by not climbing out of a gutter they were born into and likely you cannot even comprehend what that reality is.
I'll acknowledge that many strippers con people, many get into drugs - and I'll point out there are few professions without con artists, drugs and alcoholics too. I suspect it possible the average female college freshman is as promiscuous as the average stripper and dope is everywhere.
Stippers - and yes they prefer "exotic dancers" - are the full spectrum of personalities. The good and the bad. Many on this forum want to focus on the bad.
I could focus on the bad of ministers and priests as a stereotype and then ask "would you marriage a minister?" from the perspective that they are nearly all sexual predators in general. Or I could pick politicians. Bankers. Housewives. Postal Workers. In the military. Housewives. Factory workers....
The closet thing I had to friends for a long time was mostly exotic dancers and moreso older ex dancers. The closest thing my (adoptive) daughter had for a mother, and the woman on that catwalk rarely is the woman off it. An exotic dancer is an actor more than anything else. So, I suppose, I should now go off on how decadent actors are too. I'm sure I could make a case for it.
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Damn, I feel like I missed out on something never having dated a stripper...
For you guys who complain that the mean strippers are using and abusing you, just don't go to strip clubs. If you can't handle the heat, stay out of the kitchen.
Last edited by ecofarm; 04-21-13 at 05:58 AM.