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Would you marry a stripper?

Would you marry a stripper?

  • Yes, if I believed she truly loved me for me and not because I was saving her.

    Votes: 29 43.9%

  • No, nothing but trouble there.

    Votes: 37 56.1%
  • Total voters
    66
joko104 said:
Yeah, none of those and 100,000 others like it has nothing to do with sexual suggestiveness. :roll:

Certainly none of them should ever be allowed to be teachers because it would be too distracting to the male students?

I SERIOUSLY doubt that by high school their isn't 1% of high school boys who haven't often looked at the most hardcore Internet porn. And probably on their Ipods while at school passing it around too. Like it or not, times have changed. But it has always been about sex. The cheerleading routines are just a way to claim it isn't.

Cheerleading squad competitions? That is somewhat different. But the females will still be coming out in one form of hot pants or another. And the guys won't.
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I see no indication that those pics came from a cheerleading competition, which is what you were referring to
 
joko104 said:
Different moves, but in some ways the same attraction. However, I was not referring to her routines as a cheerleader. Rather just about what cheerleaders wear. She competed in Rymthmics, Rymthmic Gymnastics, Gymnastics, Baton and other related competitions very, very seriously from age 8 to 19.

Apparently the judging of some of those competitions is highly subjective and abstract as to what constitutes "the best." It's not absolute measures like who runs the 100 meters the fastest. Rather, aesthetics comes into play. In that competition she was trying a new field of competition for the first time that is particularly open to styles and measures, was the youngest, and the resumee's of the competition went off the chart. Anyway, I was just stating her opinions of it - and she was the most "innocent" and churchy teen anyone could ever meet. But she also competed to win too.

I don't think it a stretch that men may give higher marks for suggestions of feminine attraction while women judges might mark it down instead. I would guess it has a lot to do with overall impression and even subliminal suggestion. She had her own style and it tended to be she started slow, then did some suprise dazzling thing, then took it back down and built to some amazing conclusion. I won't put any of that online of course, but the level of skill she portrayed in her bit of highly suggestive action was extraordinary of itself. In a sense, she showed a female doesn't have to remove any clothing at all to be extremely desireable in "dance" and that the skill of that routine greatly adds to the seductiveness.

As I've stated myself by my own observations, pole dancing is cheesy and easy. The club I was at didn't have a pole.

I do not think it is getting "stupid" at all. Television, and not just advertising, often is highly focused on sexual attraction as is television in general. Makeup is about physical attraction, not for health, and overall fashion and appearance marketing and purchasing for women is substantially diffferent than for men.

Do I think a cheerleader and a stripper are the same? Of course not. But, then, I also don't define a stripper as a prostitute or porn star either.
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The thing is in high school cheerleading, the girls have a choreographed cheer that they have practiced for weeks if not months. When it comes time for try-outs, that is the cheer they perform. If they deviate from that (especially with adding "sexy" moves), they would be automatically disqualified and NOT make the team.
 
Un biased said:
What !!! They are lucky people arent throwing pennies at them.
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I once knew a guy who caught a stiletto to the face for throwing quarters at a stripper.

Pennies probably wouldn't go over much better. :lamo
 
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ChrisL said:
The thing is in high school cheerleading, the girls have a choreographed cheer that they have practiced for weeks if not months. When it comes time for try-outs, that is the cheer they perform. If they deviate from that (especially with adding "sexy" moves), they would be automatically disqualified and NOT make the team.
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She never did team or even duet competition. I know nothing about any of these competitions, little clue even about her until on time - until pulled off fast - she started to a routine on the catwalk at the club - though not a strip routine.

I suppose I could watch some cheerleading competitions on you tube or something.
 
joko104 said:
She never did team or even duet competition. I know nothing about any of these competitions, little clue even about her until on time - until pulled off fast - she started to a routine on the catwalk at the club - though not a strip routine.

I suppose I could watch some cheerleading competitions on you tube or something.
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Check it out. You will see that they are much more into the mechanics and acrobatics than dancing. We actually had a cheer in high school to "Another One Bites The Dust" that we were not allowed to perform because they said it was too sexy. It wasn't even THAT sexy. Nothing like stripper dances anyway.

 
My wife didn't care much for cheerleaders, though technically was one in HS. This song is sorta of how the cheerleaders seemed to view themselves in her opinion...


Bring it on - i'm sexy, i'm cute - YouTube
 
sangha said:
I see no indication that those pics came from a cheerleading competition, which is what you were referring to
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Hmm, I wondered where you and the others got that. I see why.

I posted this in one message:

"Now and then I've commented that my wife was in major national and international competitions for many years starting at a very young age, and in cheerleading/pep squad - and then of course those scant outfits worn for all of that. One time I asked if she sometimes felt like a strip dancer and if there was any sexuality implications even in calculating her routines..."

Poorly written and I could see how that could be read as she did cheerleading competition. HOWEVER, I did clarify in the next message I posted after it:

"Different moves, but in some ways the same attraction. However, I was not referring to her routines as a cheerleader. Rather just about what cheerleaders wear. She competed in Rymthmics, Rymthmic Gymnastics, Gymnastics, Baton and other related competitions very, very seriously from age 8 to 19. "

This is not her, but this is an example of what she was in competition for one area when young. What you see that girl doing is how she practices 4 to 5 hours every day, 7 days a week, for almost a decade and a half and in competition for over a decade - though she moved on to other events and areas of competition. She was as good or better than the girl in the video...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hi0cQ5ELdt4
 
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ChrisL said:
Check it out. You will see that they are much more into the mechanics and acrobatics than dancing. We actually had a cheer in high school to "Another One Bites The Dust" that we were not allowed to perform because they said it was too sexy. It wasn't even THAT sexy. Nothing like stripper dances anyway.

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Definitely not like stripping, but then stripping definitely isn't like prostitution either.
 
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joko104 said:
I dunno, whatjathink?
SKRILLEX - Ga. State Cheerleading Mix (Hey Sexy Lady) - YouTube
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Now I'm really confused. At first, you said she did tailor her routines at cheerleading routines when the judges were men. Then, you denied this and said you were talking about a dance competition of some kind. Now, you're back to cheerleading.

And some of the clips in that video did not come from a cheerleading competition, but I did see *one* booty pump that was at a competition.

For all I know, they lost points for it.
 
I think someone has a really overactive imagination.
 
No, but I'd probably boink one about now.... 'course I been drinking ab it....
 
It is very common for a member to misquote another member - or misinterprete - and everyone starts posting or even raging over it - when it was in fact a misquote. Here is another actual "quote" of what I posted about her:

joko104 said:
I wrote out a response on word - then lost it somehow...

Her high school was small and the cheerleading squad not competitive. Mostly they just did cheers, danced around, no real routines and maybe cartwheel now and then. To the contrary, she could do a running full body rotation backflip catching a baton between her legs behind her back - then instantly rolling it across her shoulder to her other hand into a curtsy and just keep going as 2 seconds of her routine - by age 8 - when she won her first international competition. This would mean little in a big city, but in a small city and being 4th generation locals, she is very famous here. Generally she would only lead the band if it was on the field.

Her being a cheerleader in title was really her just not being in a position to say no. She saw the other female cheerleaders as trite, silly-headed, with over-bloated egos and shallow. Her competitions were intensely serious to her and she focused on goals overall, setting all else aside.

The competition I referred to was not typical and her entered by mistake - accepted for her overall years of successes resume' - and her coach urged her to drop out. It was a created competition for rythmic gymnastics dance....

Believe what you wish.
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I also posted more than once she didn't care for the cheerleaders at her high school and generally had a low opinion of them. So I am not being "catty" about my now wife nor said she was in cheerleading competitions. BUT, if it is more fun for the words put into my mouth I'm game!:lol:
 
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depends what she looks like with her clothes on:mrgreen:
 
Relevance to the thread?

In some ways yes, others no.

My point about cheerleading is about the attraction of them. The girls are in scanty outfits and the boys not. While competitions may suppose to supress sexuality to make it all legit, I do not believe that is the attraction of cheerleading to guys. I don't think many go "wow, was that technically complex."

There also are technical competitions now in pole dancing. Does that make it then legit - provided she doesn't drop her top?

The question is where do you draw the line on physical displays of sexuality in terms of "don't marry her!" or being disqualified to be a school teacher?

It seems the answer is if she shows her tits uncovered???
 
joko104 said:
It is very common for a member to misquote another member - or misinterprete - and everyone starts posting or even raging over it - when it was in fact a misquote. Here is another actual "quote" of what I posted about her:



I also posted more than once she didn't care for the cheerleaders at her high school and generally had a low opinion of them. So I am not being "catty" about my now wife nor said she was in cheerleading competitions. BUT, if it is more fun for the words put into my mouth I'm game!:lol:
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Well, anyway, I don't believe I've put any words in your mouth, but really your wife is irrelevant to the conversation, no matter how much you like talking about her. :mrgreen: Which is very sweet, don't get me wrong.
 
joko104 said:
Relevance to the thread?

In some ways yes, others no.

My point about cheerleading is about the attraction of them. The girls are in scanty outfits and the boys not. While competitions may suppose to supress sexuality to make it all legit, I do not believe that is the attraction of cheerleading to guys. I don't think many go "wow, was that technically complex."

The question is where do you draw the line on physical displays of sexuality in terms of "don't marry her!" or being disqualified to be a school teacher?

It seems the answer is if she shows her tits uncovered???
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No, cheerleading, as I showed you, is more about acrobatics than "sexy" dancing. Just because some men are pervs, don't blame the girls. They are doing a choreographed routine that was not choreographed by them.

Also, there is a BIG difference between any activity in high school and stripping. If you deny this, then you are just totally intellectually dishonest.
 
TurtleDude said:
depends what she looks like with her clothes on:mrgreen:
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Personally, I think a women tends to be more sexy looking with sharp, stylized but also attractive clothes on, rather than cloths off or in Victoria's secret garb. Besides, there is the fun of removing that clothing - or just enough to be able to....
 
ChrisL said:
Well, anyway, I don't believe I've put any words in your mouth, but really your wife is irrelevant to the conversation, no matter how much you like talking about her. :mrgreen: Which is very sweet, don't get me wrong.
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Fair enough.
 
I think a greater "danger" of a relationship/marriage with an exotic/ex-exotic dancer could be very similar to an NFL/ex-NFL cheerleader or super model. That she has an ego off the charts. Plus her having confidence that she could replace you at any time without difficulty - and with many men offering.
 
joko104 said:
Personally, I think a women tends to be more sexy looking with sharp, stylized but also attractive clothes on, rather than cloths off or in Victoria's secret garb. Besides, there is the fun of removing that clothing - or just enough to be able to....
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you make a very good point that I agree with

there was this young lady I went to college with. she and I were pretty decent friends and shared a common musical interest. She was what you would call fairly pretty but not someone I had a romantic interest in. she was a hard core if not professional level ballet student who actually went into business making pointe shoes. Like most girls in my college she usually went to classes in stuff that wasn't exactly flattering, sweat pants or (the fad then-surgeon scrubs) loose jeans sweatshirts etc

well one day I was in the gym with the varsity team I was on and the coach asked me to get something that took me past the dance studio and "Liza" was there in a black leotard etc. I didn't give her much of a look even though the skin tight garment didn't leave much to imagination. She had a nice figure but nothing that made her stand out from the 20 or so other dancers. HOwever later, we left the gym at the same time and she had thrown on a really cute short dress over her tights and she looked really really cute.
 
I think you guys are lying. :lamo
 
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