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Thread: Backpacks, just say no?

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    Re: Backpacks, just say no?

    Quote Originally Posted by madman View Post
    A high school full of kids and adults is NOT a large crowd.

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    Not to mention there is a much better chance of doing massive damage and having more casualties on something like a mass transit trolley system in the middle of the afternoon when I have personally seen it full of people. In fact, when the Padres have a game, they fill the trolleys to max capacity, running extras. The people have all sorts of bags with them, because many are going to the game while others are going to work or school or coming home from those places or going shopping. Do we ban the backpacks in these highly crowded instances for hours at a time simply because this is a high population area, with the potential for not only a large amount of casualties on the trolley alone (not even taken into account potential collateral damage if the bomb was detonated in the middle of San Diego) but also the fact that with such crowding, it is highly unlikely that an unattended bag would be noticed as a threat or noticed at all?
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    Re: Backpacks, just say no?

    Quote Originally Posted by sawyerloggingon View Post
    You keep changing the subject. This thread is about banning backpacks at crowded events that are terrorist targets not banning them altogether.
    I gave a good example in an above post of a much more crowded potential target than the Boston Marathon here in San Diego that even deals with a sporting event. Every time the Padres play, the trolleys here are packed. You can barely move. This is mainly due to the amount of people going to the games, but there are plenty of people doing other things, like going to school, work, home, or just shopping. The same as was happening at the Boston Marathon. It is impractical to ban all backpacks in that large of an area. Even when we are talking about sporting events in arenas or stadiums, they don't ban bags, just search them, and that is the people who are specifically going to watch the event. People on the street, just going about their daily business should not be forced to be searched just because someone might have a bomb in their bag.
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    Re: Backpacks, just say no?

    Quote Originally Posted by roguenuke View Post
    I gave a good example in an above post of a much more crowded potential target than the Boston Marathon here in San Diego that even deals with a sporting event. Every time the Padres play, the trolleys here are packed. You can barely move. This is mainly due to the amount of people going to the games, but there are plenty of people doing other things, like going to school, work, home, or just shopping. The same as was happening at the Boston Marathon. It is impractical to ban all backpacks in that large of an area. Even when we are talking about sporting events in arenas or stadiums, they don't ban bags, just search them, and that is the people who are specifically going to watch the event. People on the street, just going about their daily business should not be forced to be searched just because someone might have a bomb in their bag.
    Once again I have to wonder how I have managed to live my entire life without ever carrying a backpack unless I was actually backpacking. The importance people put on these things nowadays borders on obsessive compulsive behavior.It's like trying to convince an alcoholic to give up the bottle and once again I have to say, "you can have my backpack when you pry it from my cold dead fingers".

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    Re: Backpacks, just say no?

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    Once again I have to wonder how I have managed to live my entire life without ever carrying a backpack unless I was actually backpacking. The importance people put on these things nowadays borders on obsessive compulsive behavior.It's like trying to convince an alcoholic to give up the bottle and once again I have to say, "you can have my backpack when you pry it from my cold dead fingers".
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    Re: Backpacks, just say no?

    Quote Originally Posted by sawyerloggingon View Post
    Once again I have to wonder how I have managed to live my entire life without ever carrying a backpack unless I was actually backpacking. The importance people put on these things nowadays borders on obsessive compulsive behavior.It's like trying to convince an alcoholic to give up the bottle and once again I have to say, "you can have my backpack when you pry it from my cold dead fingers".
    Now you're just being absurd. My backpack is a highly valuable tool to me when I leave the house because I don't drive. There is very little reason for me to leave the house unless I am doing something such as going to school (need books and other school materials), going to work (need uniforms or change of clothes, plus almost always need paperwork, and lately I have to also carry a binder with CPO training stuff, not to mention any number of other things, sometimes I end up needing a backpack and a sport's bag going to work), or going to the store (where I am environmentally conscience and believe it is a waste to not carry my own bags, which usually go into my backpack when not filled). Plus, I enjoy entertainment. Why should I have to give stuff up just so you feel a little bit safer (which is really only an illusion, since it really isn't making you that much safer if I'm not allowed to carry a backpack around)? Heck, you driving a car puts me at greater risk than my carrying a backpack puts you.
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    Re: Backpacks, just say no?

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    Re: Backpacks, just say no?

    Quote Originally Posted by sawyerloggingon View Post
    This Boston bombing could not have taken place if people were not allowed to carry backpacks to events like this. Why does anyone really need a backpack anyway? IMO it would not be asking to much to leave your backpack home. The only time I ever wear one is you know, when I'm going backpacking.

    "You have people that have their backpacks with them, a runner may have a hydration pack on them, another person may be coming to watch the race and they may have a backpack," Penza said. "You see them so much, you stop thinking that any of those bags might have explosives."

    Marathon Security Practices Scrutinized in Wake of Boston Marathon Explosions - ABC News
    When I go to a public event at which I will be for any length of time, I pack lunch, drinks and usually a book in a small back pack for those times I get hungry, thirsty or bored.

    Which reminds me of a story about Baader Meinhof in the 70's. The MPs at the IGFarben complex were so intent on examining the under carriage of cars for explosives they overlooked a bicycler who apparently packed all of the metal tubes of his bike with HE and blew up the from of the Officer's Club.

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    Re: Backpacks, just say no?

    There should be a none of the above vote.
    So - no vote..
    Of course, the prohibition of anything never works, does it......??
    But the nutsoid extremists will find a way..
    Whoever thought of box openers as a terrible - horrific weapon ??
    Now , pressure cookers and back-packs.
    The problem....., the root cause is being ignored..
    Mans hatred , his ignorance and fear...

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    Re: Backpacks, just say no?

    Quote Originally Posted by roguenuke View Post
    Now you're just being absurd. My backpack is a highly valuable tool to me when I leave the house because I don't drive. There is very little reason for me to leave the house unless I am doing something such as going to school (need books and other school materials), going to work (need uniforms or change of clothes, plus almost always need paperwork, and lately I have to also carry a binder with CPO training stuff, not to mention any number of other things, sometimes I end up needing a backpack and a sport's bag going to work), or going to the store (where I am environmentally conscience and believe it is a waste to not carry my own bags, which usually go into my backpack when not filled). Plus, I enjoy entertainment. Why should I have to give stuff up just so you feel a little bit safer (which is really only an illusion, since it really isn't making you that much safer if I'm not allowed to carry a backpack around)? Heck, you driving a car puts me at greater risk than my carrying a backpack puts you.
    Why don't you drive? Those reusable shopping bags have been proven to spread cooties.

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    Re: Backpacks, just say no?

    Quote Originally Posted by sawyerloggingon View Post
    Why don't you drive? Those reusable shopping bags have been proven to spread cooties.
    Never got a license. Working on it, especially now that my husband is laid up with a broke knee.

    Those only spread cooties if you don't take care of them.
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