View Poll Results: Should obama return the domestic terrorism budget to what it was under bush

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    Re: Should obama rethink his funding cut for domestic terrorism

    Quote Originally Posted by Truckstop View Post
    Wait, if congress is responsible for the budget, how does Obama reduce the deficit? So the left would be wholly responsible for the last two "Bush" budgets also right? Since "No matter how you slice it, the budget is Congress' responsibility."

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    Re: Should obama rethink his funding cut for domestic terrorism

    Quote Originally Posted by sawyerloggingon View Post
    He should at least put back the money he took out in light of what just happened.
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    Re: Should obama rethink his funding cut for domestic terrorism

    Quote Originally Posted by BMCM View Post
    I thought i had answered your questions, perhaps i missed one. By all means repost it and I'll answer it to the best of my ability.

    The questions I asked do in fact pertain to this thread. You said he should restore the money that was cut from IED domestic terrorism. Would you be satisfied if the 11 mill was restored or do you think it should be increased. If so then how much should it be increased by. How much of your freedom are you willing to give up for the safety you're looking for? Would you be willing to have your person searched when you went into a public place, how about your wife's purse or your kids backpack?
    If you said the money should be restored or not I missed it.

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    Re: Should obama rethink his funding cut for domestic terrorism

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    Re: Should obama rethink his funding cut for domestic terrorism

    Quote Originally Posted by sawyerloggingon View Post
    Obama cut funding for preventing domestic terrorism nearly in half. Bush had it at 20 million and obama slashed it to 11 million. Should he refund the program in light of the Boston bombing.

    "Under President George W. Bush, the Department of Homeland Security had $20 million allocated for preventing the use of improvised explosive devices (IEDs) by terrorists working inside the United States. The current White House has cut that funding down to $11 million.

    That assessment comes from Robert Liscouski, a former Homeland Security Assistant Secretary for Infrastructure Protection, in the wake of the Boston Marathon bombings on April 15 that killed three Americans and injured at least 173 others.

    He told MailOnline that the Obama-era DHS is, on the whole, about as well-positioned as it was during the Bush administration to handle the aftermath of the April 15 bombings in Boston, 'but the Obama administration has continued to cut the budget for offices such as the Office for Bombing Prevention from $20 million started under Bush, to $11 million today.'


    Read more: Obama administration has SLASHED budget for domestic bombing prevention by 45 per cent, says former Homeland Security Assistant Secretary | Mail Online
    Depends...

    In today's world, something needs to be done to try and head off this stuff, the only question is "how much?". Are you suggesting that $20 mil (extra $9 mil) would have thwarted this bombing? If so, that's a pretty questionable suggestion. It is entirely possible that $11 mil is fine and this particular incident would have happened anyway. No one can say definitively one way or another.
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    Re: Should obama rethink his funding cut for domestic terrorism

    Quote Originally Posted by radcen View Post
    Depends...

    In today's world, something needs to be done to try and head off this stuff, the only question is "how much?". Are you suggesting that $20 mil (extra $9 mil) would have thwarted this bombing? If so, that's a pretty questionable suggestion. It is entirely possible that $11 mil is fine and this particular incident would have happened anyway. No one can say definitively one way or another.
    My idea would be to have well trained squads that would be deployed to events like the Boston Marathon. They would decide the hot spots for a bombing like this and spread out to watch the crowd. If someone had been at the finish line in Boston there is a good chance those two guys walking briskly through the crowd carrying matching and obviously heavy black backpacks would have been noticed and watched. The second they set the packs down and walked away the alarm could have been sounded and greatly reduced if not eliminated the carnage.

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    Re: Should obama rethink his funding cut for domestic terrorism

    Quote Originally Posted by sawyerloggingon View Post
    My idea would be to have well trained squads that would be deployed to events like the Boston Marathon. They would decide the hot spots for a bombing like this and spread out to watch the crowd. If someone had been at the finish line in Boston there is a good chance those two guys walking briskly through the crowd carrying matching and obviously heavy black backpacks would have been noticed and watched. The second they set the packs down and walked away the alarm could have been sounded and greatly reduced if not eliminated the carnage.
    What a reduculous notion. Are you even somewhat aware of how many large events take place in America every day? How many you gonna' cover? How about the city-wide HS Football Trophy game? That's got thousands of people every year and they're all in one spot. Virtually every sporting event, every mall and Wal-mart the day after Thanksgiving, here thousands attend the Plaza Lighting, an outdoor event with tens of thousands in attendance. Who's going to cover all that and who's going to pay for it? Just how far is "far "enough"?


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    Re: Should obama rethink his funding cut for domestic terrorism

    Quote Originally Posted by sawyerloggingon View Post
    If you said the money should be restored or not I missed it.
    I didn't say the money should have been restored because I don't think it would have prevented the Boston bombing or any other bombing. IMO the only way to do that would be to put every single person in this country under 24X7 surveillance.

    Why have you been dodging my questions?
    You said he should restore the money that was cut from IED domestic terrorism. Would you be satisfied if the 11 mill was restored or do you think it should be increased. If so then how much should it be increased by. How much of your freedom are you willing to give up for the safety you're looking for? Would you be willing to have your person searched when you went into a public place, how about your wife's purse or your kids backpack?
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    Re: Should obama rethink his funding cut for domestic terrorism

    Quote Originally Posted by sawyerloggingon View Post
    Obama cut funding for preventing domestic terrorism nearly in half. Bush had it at 20 million and obama slashed it to 11 million. Should he refund the program in light of the Boston bombing.

    "Under President George W. Bush, the Department of Homeland Security had $20 million allocated for preventing the use of improvised explosive devices (IEDs) by terrorists working inside the United States. The current White House has cut that funding down to $11 million.

    That assessment comes from Robert Liscouski, a former Homeland Security Assistant Secretary for Infrastructure Protection, in the wake of the Boston Marathon bombings on April 15 that killed three Americans and injured at least 173 others.

    He told MailOnline that the Obama-era DHS is, on the whole, about as well-positioned as it was during the Bush administration to handle the aftermath of the April 15 bombings in Boston, 'but the Obama administration has continued to cut the budget for offices such as the Office for Bombing Prevention from $20 million started under Bush, to $11 million today.'


    Read more: Obama administration has SLASHED budget for domestic bombing prevention by 45 per cent, says former Homeland Security Assistant Secretary | Mail Online
    In the Boston incident, I don't think this had a role at all in it. Funding could be at zero, 10 million, 20 million or 200 million and these two nuts would have still pulled it off.
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    Re: Should obama rethink his funding cut for domestic terrorism

    Quote Originally Posted by BMCM View Post
    I didn't say the money should have been restored because I don't think it would have prevented the Boston bombing or any other bombing. IMO the only way to do that would be to put every single person in this country under 24X7 surveillance.

    Why have you been dodging my questions?
    You said he should restore the money that was cut from IED domestic terrorism. Would you be satisfied if the 11 mill was restored or do you think it should be increased. If so then how much should it be increased by. How much of your freedom are you willing to give up for the safety you're looking for? Would you be willing to have your person searched when you went into a public place, how about your wife's purse or your kids backpack?
    See post 46

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