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    Re: Is obama causing terrorism?

    Quote Originally Posted by sawyerloggingon View Post
    All very interesting but this thread is asking those that blamed Bush for terrorism if they now blame obama.
    Well, I didn't blame Bush for terrorism, and I am also not blaming Obama for it.

    Whom do I blame? Terrorists. Why? Because they have committed the atrocities, leaving the rest of us to ponder the great evils in the world that allow people to justify the slaughter of innocents to serve some sick and "greater" purpose.

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    Re: Is obama causing terrorism?

    Not really, no. The war in Afghanistan, which bleeds over into northern Pakistan, is (and was even in 2003) a different subject than Iraq.
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    Re: Is obama causing terrorism?

    Quote Originally Posted by sawyerloggingon View Post
    So you never blamed Bush for terrorism? You were not in the GITMO is creating terrorist, Iraq war is doing the same camp?
    No, I have never indulged in such rhetoric.

    You assume here that anybody who does not agree with your own partisan hackery is of the opposite hackish persuasion.
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    Re: Is obama causing terrorism?

    Iraq war, Guatanamo and the use of drones can all increase the risk of terror (but of course be no excuse for terror). Still you can't compare the Iraq war too Guatanamo bay or the use of drones. Because the Iraq war was a creation of a entire theater of war for terrorist to train in real combat. That at the same the brutality of the war lead to radicalization of an entire country. That at the same time the extremly bad planning of the Iraq war lead to that the country became one big weapon supermarket for terrorist.

    Iraq's Looted Arms Depots: What the GAO Didn't Mention - Strategic Security Blog

    http://www.nytimes.com/2005/03/13/in...loot.html?_r=0

    That of course does't mean that their would be no terrorism without those act or that you should stop all action that potientally can lead to increase threath of terror, but some times things can maybe be done diffrently. Like for example focus the resources on creating stability and peace in Afganisthan instead of going to war with Iraq. Maybe have a better plan of capture and convicte terrorist then Guatanamo bay. And maybe more can be done to avoid civilian casualities then using drones.

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    Re: Is obama causing terrorism?

    Quote Originally Posted by sawyerloggingon View Post
    All very interesting but this thread is asking those that blamed Bush for terrorism if they now blame obama.
    I don't blame either one.
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    Re: Is obama causing terrorism?

    Quote Originally Posted by Bergslagstroll View Post
    Because the Iraq war was a creation of a entire theater of war for terrorist to train in real combat.
    It led to an awful lot of them dying in real combat too.

    That's not such a bad thing.

    That at the same the brutality of the war lead to radicalization of an entire country.
    No it didn't.

    The "tide" of the war in Iraq turned when the overwelming majority of the populace that didn't turn to terrorisim got fed up with the minority that had.

    That at the same time the extremly bad planning of the Iraq war lead to that the country became one big weapon supermarket for terrorist.
    Iran was the weapon supermarket for the terrorists/insurgency in Iraq.

    I agree that for the first couple of months it was fueled by the munitions that the poor planning you're talking about left unsecured but that stuff only lasted so long.

    Makes sense.

    6000 man-potrable antiaircraft missiles went missing and in the decade since the war in Iraq began not one single aircraft, neither civilian nor military, neither in Iraq nor globally, has been attacked by a terrorist or insurgent firing a man-potrable antiaircraft missile.

    Either that's very sporting of the terrorists/insurgents or something stinks in Denmark.

    That of course does't mean that their would be no terrorism without those act or that you should stop all action that potientally can lead to increase threath of terror, but some times things can maybe be done diffrently. Like for example focus the resources on creating stability and peace in Afganisthan instead of going to war with Iraq. Maybe have a better plan of capture and convicte terrorist then Guatanamo bay. And maybe more can be done to avoid civilian casualities then using drones.
    Agree 110%.

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