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    Re: Should driving during or right after smoking pot be legal?

    Quote Originally Posted by Serenity View Post
    3 Second google. Link headline is incorrect. It says 3 were killed. It was actually 4 when you read the article.
    This is classic.

    There is no way for the test they gave him to determine if he was under the imfluence or just smoked pot some time in the past few weeks.

    They are working on tests to see if one smoked enough recently to be considered impaired, like blood alcohol levels.

    But right now its pass/fail, and simply doesn't begin to prove impairment.
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    Re: Should driving during or right after smoking pot be legal?

    Quote Originally Posted by X Factor View Post
    Here's my problem (well, one of many, lol). Every time the subject is legalization of marijuana, the pro side almost invariably compares pot to alcohol and almost always concludes that pot is actually better and safer so shouldn't our traffic and criminal laws be changed to reflect that one is just not as bad as the other?

    You're ok with non-violent people spending time in jail for such a minor thing?
    You really can't think this through? Or you are being purposefully disingenuous?

    Driving while intoxicated isn't the only aspect of safety in this issue. Pot could possibly (I am NOT saying it is) be more dangerous than alcohol with regard to driving, and still be a safer drug to use for recreation. I will leave you to ponder how that might be.
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    Re: Should driving during or right after smoking pot be legal?

    Quote Originally Posted by Dezaad View Post
    You really can't think this through? Or you are being purposefully disingenuous?
    The way he's phrasing things, it's possible he's simply playing devil's advocate to spur conversation.
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    Re: Should driving during or right after smoking pot be legal?

    Quote Originally Posted by radcen View Post
    The way he's phrasing things, it's possible he's simply playing devil's advocate to spur conversation.
    Except that he started out his statement saying "one of his problems, among many". I see, there, a person who is claiming he has genuine misgivings.

    Besides, if he is going to try to provoke intelligent discussion, he will have to exhibit much more intelligence than that. This issue has been discussed at length, here. The safety aspects have been explored. It is already exceedingly obvious that operating complex machinery isn't the only safety concern.

    On the other hand, If I have missed some people saying that pot doesn't cause impairment, mea culpa. But I wouldn't have taken them seriously anyway.
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    Re: Should driving during or right after smoking pot be legal?

    Quote Originally Posted by Dezaad View Post
    Except that he started out his statement saying "one of his problems, among many". I see, there, a person who is claiming he has genuine misgivings.

    Besides, if he is going to try to provoke intelligent discussion, he will have to exhibit much more intelligence than that. This issue has been discussed at length, here. The safety aspects have been explored. It is already exceedingly obvious that operating complex machinery isn't the only safety concern.

    On the other hand, If I have missed some people saying that pot doesn't cause impairment, mea culpa. But I wouldn't have taken them seriously anyway.
    With the exception of specific current events, pretty much everything has been discussed here at length. The purpose of the forum is as much to interact as it is to (hopefully) provide information.
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    Re: Should driving during or right after smoking pot be legal?

    Quote Originally Posted by radcen View Post
    With the exception of specific current events, pretty much everything has been discussed here at length. The purpose of the forum is as much to interact as it is to (hopefully) provide information.
    If you think his post was an intelligent attempt to re-open covered territory, I can't help you.
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    Re: Should driving during or right after smoking pot be legal?

    There should be a limit to how much of any drug that one can consume and still drive. Alcohol for example has a limit, in most cases you can have a beer or two and still drive legally.

    So actually it is legal to drive after consuming alcohol, just as it should be legal to smoke a bowl and then drive. Of course there should be open bong laws just like open containers laws lol. Cause damn that bong is going to spill.

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    Re: Should driving during or right after smoking pot be legal?

    Quote Originally Posted by Dezaad View Post
    If you think his post was an intelligent attempt to re-open covered territory, I can't help you.
    To paraphrase one of your recent comments... Are you purposely being obtuse? What mental gymnastics did you use to equate my comment about the purpose of the forum in general as having anything whatsoever to do with X Factor's posts?
    If you claim sexual harassment to be wrong, yet you defend anyone on your side for any reason,
    then you are a hypocrite and everything you say on the matter is just babble.

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    Re: Should driving during or right after smoking pot be legal?

    Quote Originally Posted by X Factor View Post
    Here's my problem (well, one of many, lol). Every time the subject is legalization of marijuana, the pro side almost invariably compares pot to alcohol and almost always concludes that pot is actually better and safer so shouldn't our traffic and criminal laws be changed to reflect that one is just not as bad as the other?

    You're ok with non-violent people spending time in jail for such a minor thing?
    Those people are lying to you if they say pot does not impair you. Pot just like alchol impairs you. Sure there are some potheads out there who can safely drive while being stoned, just like there are some drunks out there who can safely drive while being drunk. However those exception do not justify endangering everyone else on the road.
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    Re: Should driving during or right after smoking pot be legal?

    It depends IMO, for an everyday stoner I don't believe it possible for any amount of marijuana to impair him/her to the extent of a black out drunk however for a 1st timer or infrequent smoker a hit could impair you far more than being drunk.

    That being said, I don't want people to be impaired at all on the road... I don't even want their cell phones on TBH.
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