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    Re: Should driving during or right after smoking pot be legal?

    Quote Originally Posted by RabidAlpaca View Post
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    Re: Should driving during or right after smoking pot be legal?

    Quote Originally Posted by X Factor View Post
    Since it appears from many arguments I've seen that pot actually has no ill or dangerous effects either to the user or any one around them and causes basically zero impairment of judgment or reflexes, shouldn't driving while high be legal? If not, why not?

    Choices will be yes, no, and I don't know.

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    This question is a tough one....

    Why does the state need to have the authority to protect people from themselves. If you want to smoke a dooby the size of churchill or robusto cigar, than who the hell has the moral or legal right to tell you what you cannot ingest, imbibe or smoke.

    But when you're right to smoke infringes upon my right to life, for example, if your hallucinations while operating a motor vehicle an caused my son/daughter/cousin or whoever to be involved in your accident....than you have formally infringed on their right to life...

    So I guess to answer your question... within reasonable limit yes it should be legal.
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    Re: Should driving during or right after smoking pot be legal?

    Quote Originally Posted by X Factor View Post
    Here's my problem (well, one of many, lol). Every time the subject is legalization of marijuana, the pro side almost invariably compares pot to alcohol and almost always concludes that pot is actually better and safer so shouldn't our traffic and criminal laws be changed to reflect that one is just not as bad as the other?

    You're ok with non-violent people spending time in jail for such a minor thing?
    It's a different situation because the drugs are different.

    Alcohol is disinhibitory.

    Pot makes you a little paranoid.

    Drunks hurtle.

    Potheads drive 45mph on the freeway and signal a mile ahead of a turn.

    Its more about attention drifting than "impairment" as with alcohol.

    You can absolutely be impaired on pot. And you shouldn't drive when you are. And I don't have a problem with legal consequences if you do.

    That said, "dui" for pot at this point is presence of it in your bloodstream.

    Which means you can get a dui for a joint you smoked weeks ago.

    Some means of determining impairment needs to be developed.

    Potheads can usually pass field sobriety tests, even when high enough to e actually impaired.

    It doesn't screw with your equilibrium like alcohol does.

    They are working on it in places like Colorado.
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    Re: Should driving during or right after smoking pot be legal?

    How is this even a question?

    Heck no.
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    Re: Should driving during or right after smoking pot be legal?

    Quote Originally Posted by X Factor View Post
    As far as you know, has anyone ever been injured or killed by a driver who was under the influence of pot? I've been told that there is not one single fatality attributable to m/j.
    First, how about you actually provide some links or quotes of people "saying" these things rather than just stating it as if it's a fact. The reality is MOST Of the people I see arguing for legalization DON'T say these things in the way you are saying it. It's an extremely small minority that usually gets shouted at even by people on their own side. It's like taking some extreme anti-government patriot militia type and proclaiming what they say about things to represent the "conservative argument".

    Second, you're being idioticly and needlessly obtuse. The statements regarding deaths relating to Pot is in terms of individuals themselves dying FROM pot itself. Alcohol can kill via alcohol poisoning, where as in a general sense you can't smoke so much pot it kills you. Again, I've yet to see anyone but the most extreme of pro-pot people suggest that Marijuana has not been involved in deaths in a greater scope of things...IE in the blood stream of someone who kills another person, a car accident, etc.

    Third, to answer the question to the question. No, it shouldn't be illegal. You are intoxicated .Is that intoxication different than alcohol? Yes. So is being intoxicated on narcotics...and yet that will still get you a DWI potentially.

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    Re: Should driving during or right after smoking pot be legal?

    Quote Originally Posted by Cardinal View Post
    Non-violent or not, people who smoke pot are absolutely horrible judges of the benefits of pot. How many stories have you seen that are liked on Facebook or shared through email on the hundreds of dubious benefits of marijuana (the one about cannabis curing cancer probably being my favorite)?

    People should be allowed to smoke pot, but they shouldn't be allowed to drive a two ton vehicle on it.
    On the cancer thing, powerful antioxidents have proven beneficial in cancer treatment.

    Pot has some powerful antioxidants.

    If the feds allowed research, they might actually find something.

    Many of our most pktent medicines are plant derived.

    Theres also a mental component to cancer treatment. So it may be the high itself that is helping.
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    Should driving during or right after smoking pot be legal?

    It you get into an accident and you are impaired I think the EMTs should be allowed to save us the cost of a trial and smother you on scene.

    I've seen too many dumbasses on the road and I was almost killed by someone who was high on pot. They killed a 3 year old 5 minutes down the road...before I completed my phone call to law enforcement about someone driving in the wrong lane.

    It is proven it impairs functions and slows reaction time. There is no argument for DUIs regardless of chemical.
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    Re: Should driving during or right after smoking pot be legal?

    Marijuana has effects. To deny so is dishonest, but I don't think even (most) legalization supporters suggest there is no effect. What they argue, as I interpret it, is that the potential effects are similar to alcohol, as in similar undesired consequences, i.e.: driving injuries and fatalities, etc., yet not guaranteed. This, IMO, is why it should be treated similar to alcohol.

    As far as the question about driving after using... this presents a problem. With alcohol, you can reasonably measure current intoxication levels. As I understand it, you cannot do the same with marijuana, so enforcement would be more difficult. I would not favor relying on tests that only say you have it in your system, but could be 10 days ago and thus zero effect on 'right now'.
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    Re: Should driving during or right after smoking pot be legal?

    Quote Originally Posted by X Factor View Post
    zero impairment of judgment or reflexes.
    But that's just not true. Marijuana is an intoxicant. No reason to keep it illegal, even if the Idiotic War on (some) Drugs were not such an unmitigated disaster, but it certainly should not be legal to drive under influence. Just apply the same rules as with alcohol.

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    Re: Should driving during or right after smoking pot be legal?

    Quote Originally Posted by X Factor View Post
    As far as you know, has anyone ever been injured or killed by a driver who was under the influence of pot? I've been told that there is not one single fatality attributable to m/j.
    I've heard the same thing, and even without stats and numbers handy, the notion is patently absurd. Nobody? Ever? Really?

    Irresponsible blanket statements like that only serve to hinder the pro-legalization movement because they portray the supporters as lacking reasonable credibility.
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