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    Re: Should driving during or right after smoking pot be legal?

    Quote Originally Posted by specklebang View Post
    Wine and Everclear are not the same. Why are they treated alike?
    If the effects of being drunk on wine were substantially different from being drunk on Everclear then they should be treated differently, shouldn't they? The effects are the same though because the intoxicant is the same.

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    Re: Should driving during or right after smoking pot be legal?

    Quote Originally Posted by X Factor View Post
    Maybe, but it's a much more rare occurance.
    What do you base that on?

    The only effect mj has, apparently, is causing someone to drive slow.
    Yeah...that's not true. Are you just playing devil's advocate?

    Heck, since people tend to get more injured the greater the speed, couldn't the argument even be made that driving while high is actually safer?
    Ok, you're definitely playing devil's advocate.

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    Re: Should driving during or right after smoking pot be legal?

    Quote Originally Posted by RabidAlpaca View Post
    I love it, but its not something you want to drive on. Illegal.
    I think you may have hit the wrong button.

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    Re: Should driving during or right after smoking pot be legal?

    Quote Originally Posted by X Factor View Post
    As far as you know, has anyone ever been injured or killed by a driver who was under the influence of pot? I've been told that there is not one single fatality attributable to m/j.
    I'm sure there has been, I have no stats at hand. And you are misinterpreting what you have been told, there has been no fatality that can be attributed to the use of marijuana, which basically means no one has overdosed on marijuana. It's just not possible. That is what that means, not what you want it to mean.
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    Re: Should driving during or right after smoking pot be legal?

    Quote Originally Posted by X Factor View Post
    As far as you know, has anyone ever been injured or killed by a driver who was under the influence of pot? I've been told that there is not one single fatality attributable to m/j.
    3 Second google. Link headline is incorrect. It says 3 were killed. It was actually 4 when you read the article.

    A Queens teenager who crashed his car on a Long Island highway last month, killing four of his friends, now faces 25 years in prison after testing positive for marijuana, authorities said Friday. The car launched into a wooded area and split in two after striking a tree. The four passengers — Darian Ramnarine, 18; Peter Kanhai, 18; Chris Kahn, 18; and Neal Rajapa, 17 — were all tossed from the car and died. Prosecutors said a blood sample, taken from Beer two hours after the crash, tested positive for marijuana.

    "The sheer magnitude of this tragedy is unthinkable, and it could have easily been avoided if this defendant had simply made the right choice to drive sober and drive safely," said Nassau County District Attorney Kathleen Rice. "Instead, we have four promising young lives cut short, another young man facing years in prison, and families that will forever be torn apart by this horrific crash."


    Read more: Queens teenager Joseph Beer faces 25 years in prison for car crash that killed three friends* - NY Daily News

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    Re: Should driving during or right after smoking pot be legal?

    Yeah, yeah, just messing with you.

    The reason you can drive on pot is that it makes the road so much more interesting that you don't want to take your eyes off it. So, you slow to about 7 mph and smell the roses.


    Quote Originally Posted by X Factor View Post
    If the effects of being drunk on wine were substantially different from being drunk on Everclear then they should be treated differently, shouldn't they? The effects are the same though because the intoxicant is the same.

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    Re: Should driving during or right after smoking pot be legal?

    Quote Originally Posted by Serenity View Post
    3 Second google. Link headline is incorrect. It says 3 were killed. It was actually 4 when you read the article.
    Actually you'd have to know more about the cause of the accident before you could attribute it to the m/j. I'd be interested to know what caused the car to "launch". (I will look at the link, it's getting to be too late to do it now)

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    Re: Should driving during or right after smoking pot be legal?

    Quote Originally Posted by X Factor View Post
    Since it appears from many arguments I've seen that pot actually has no ill or dangerous effects either to the user or any one around them and causes basically zero impairment of judgment or reflexes, shouldn't driving while high be legal? If not, why not?
    Cannabis is not universally harmless. It has strong potential for psychological habituation, and causes lung and cognitive impairment with regular use. Some people describe themselves as "addicted" to cannabis and have minor withdrawal symptoms if they stop it after using for a very long time. That said, the physical impacts of cannabis all resolve within less than a month after quitting.

    None of this matters though, because nothing that cannabis does to the body is comparable to what alcohol abuse does to the body. The social, health, and economic fallout from alcohol is far greater than any other drug, legal or otherwise. Since cannabis is far less harmful than alcohol, it is the reason why I think it should be legal. I thought I'd clarify that point before addressing your poll.

    There should of course be legal penalties for people who drive under the influence of any mind altering substance. I would broaden this to include legal pharmaceuticals that have psychotropic impacts, such as benzodiazpines, opiates, and other anti-psychotics. If their medication label says "do not operate machinery after taking this drug", then to do otherwise is IMO illegal and should bring equivalent charges to drunk driving. People should simply not be driving if they are not able to be fully cognizant in present reality. Unfortunately, impaired driving law enforcement mainly focuses on alcohol and not the rest. If someone doesn't have alcohol in their blood and they're in an accident, then they were considered "not impaired", despite the act they may be loaded on pharmaceuticals.

    The problem with pot is that there isn't yet an efficient means to test for use like there is with a breathalizer test. Cannabis can be detected in the blood stream up to a week after the last use since cannabinoids are fat-soluble molecules, and therefore it's hard to prove when a person last smoked.

    I will, however, vote "no" in principle.

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    Re: Should driving during or right after smoking pot be legal?

    My philosophy is that if it isn't effecting me, I don't give a **** what you do to yourself or other consenting adults. If you're driving normal and not doing anything that would get the attention of a cop, why should I care how stoned you are?
    Last edited by ChunkySalsa; 04-17-13 at 03:49 AM.

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    Re: Should driving during or right after smoking pot be legal?

    Quote Originally Posted by X Factor View Post
    Since it appears from many arguments I've seen that pot actually has no ill or dangerous effects either to the user or any one around them and causes basically zero impairment of judgment or reflexes, shouldn't driving while high be legal? If not, why not?

    Choices will be yes, no, and I don't know.

    Need a second to get the poll up.
    Pot impairs people's reflexes leaving potential for bad driving. I am for recreational legalization, and of course it should be illegal to drive while high.

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