View Poll Results: Should the Cuban Embargo be ended?

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  • No. We cannot cooperate in making Communism successful 90 miles from the US coast

    4 8.70%
  • Yes. Its time to end the Cuban Embargo.

    35 76.09%
  • Yes, but with limits, restrictions and tarrifs.

    5 10.87%
  • Yes, but lets do it with democrats in power owning the backlash from the Cuban exile community.

    2 4.35%
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    Re: Is it time to end the Cuban Embargo?

    Quote Originally Posted by Dragonfly View Post
    It's very difficult to take you serious when you post something of this nature. So I must ask - are you serious?
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    Re: Is it time to end the Cuban Embargo?

    Quote Originally Posted by DVSentinel View Post
    It was never a scare, other than the nukes they had. It was just a target rich environment of evil souls waiting to be harvested and sent on their way to hell. It will remain such until such time as there is no longer an adult individual left preaching the sermons of Satan's disciple, Marx.
    Satan and Marx... Ohhh ahhh scary


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    Re: Is it time to end the Cuban Embargo?

    The Cuban Embargo is an outdated policy that has failed in its original purpose and has long since outlived any secondary purpose it once might have served. As such, it probably should be lifted.

    I doubt that it will happen, however; so long as staunchly anti-Castro Cuban American voters continue to play such a major role in US partisan politics and elections.
    Last edited by Gathomas88; 04-16-13 at 05:57 PM.

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    Re: Is it time to end the Cuban Embargo?

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
    I would respect a countries sovereignty and not put in power an embargo, and realize the world is not my countries and my countries corporations playground.
    in other words, you would do absolutely nothing about the blatant theft by the Castro regime.

    the good news is, you wouldn't be reelected.

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    Re: Is it time to end the Cuban Embargo?

    Quote Originally Posted by Thrilla View Post
    in other words, you would do absolutely nothing about the blatant theft by the Castro regime.

    the good news is, you wouldn't be reelected.
    Theft? How is it theft? Its called national sovereignty.


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    Re: Is it time to end the Cuban Embargo?

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
    Theft? How is it theft? Its called national sovereignty.
    nationalization without compensation.... Castro nationalized property that was rightfully and lawfully paid for by the owners... he offered no compensation in return for the property he confiscated.

    that's theft, no matter how you slice it.

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    Re: Is it time to end the Cuban Embargo?

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    When the Castros are gone and their replacements open up their governance so as to extend rights to their people... sure.
    We agree!
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    Re: Is it time to end the Cuban Embargo?

    Quote Originally Posted by 0bserver92 View Post
    Well it will let them see North American culture in the products they import thus making them embrace ideas like democracy and freedom. When you import goods form America you import culture and values. Canada has a good relation but the only thing we send to Cuba is a crapton of tourists.
    Apparently you export more than that ...

    Exports:
    $5.6 billion (2012 est.)
    country comparison to the world: 109
    $6.041 billion (2011 est.)

    Exports - commodities:
    petroleum, nickel, medical products, sugar, tobacco, fish, citrus, coffee

    Exports - partners:
    China 24.8%, Canada 21.5%, Venezuela 7.1%, Netherlands 7.1%, Spain 6.5% (2011)

    Imports:
    $13.68 billion (2012 est.)
    country comparison to the world: 90
    $13.96 billion (2011 est.)

    Imports - commodities:
    petroleum, food, machinery and equipment, chemicals

    Imports - partners:
    Venezuela 37.4%, China 9.8%, Spain 8.4%, Brazil 5.2%, Canada 4.4% (2011)
    https://www.cia.gov/library/publicat...k/geos/cu.html


    And how long have you been doing this?
    What changes have been made in that time?

    Quote Originally Posted by ernst barkmann View Post
    although i hate communism, i dont like the idea of exporting democracy .........which is another vile form of government....lets export ...true republican government.

    but i do feel that opening up free markets to Cuba, will bring down communism in that country.
    Quote Originally Posted by Mr. Invisible View Post
    Through history trade between nations has not just been a trade in goods, but also a trade in ideas, customs, and the like. That's what Observer92 is saying.
    All three of you seem to be assuming the Cuban government would allow just anything and anyone to come into the country. I don't think that would happen at all with the current government. If things would actually change from trade than why has trade with Canada and others had no or little effect?
    Last edited by MoSurveyor; 04-16-13 at 07:53 PM.
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    Re: Is it time to end the Cuban Embargo?

    Quote Originally Posted by Helix View Post
    I always argue that the cure for oppressive regimes is blue jeans and rock and roll. when people start seeing what they are missing out on, those who are keeping them from it tend to get tossed out.
    Cuba isn't the USSR with a border a thousand miles long for things to pass through. If our culture was going to seep into Cuba it would have done so by now, considering how close it is. The fact that is apparently hasn't speaks volumes.
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    Re: Is it time to end the Cuban Embargo?

    Quote Originally Posted by upsideguy View Post
    Thank you, Jimmy Carter. I'm not sure I have seen human rights as the foundation of foreign policy in 40 years. That said, though Cuba is near the bottom of the barrel on human rights, we have relationships with nations further down the spectrum. The US isn't exactly lilly-white on the subject itself. Sorry, this sounds like rationalization.

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    9th down on the list in terms of human rights. That doesn't look so good.
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