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  • Very

    39 63.93%
  • Important, but futile

    7 11.48%
  • Meh

    4 6.56%
  • Not very

    2 3.28%
  • Not at all

    3 4.92%
  • Other

    6 9.84%
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    Re: How important is voting?

    Just because it's you, I'll go off topic.
    The bottom 16 teams in the NFL with the top 16 picks will do a far
    worse job with their picks than the best 16 teams with the lower 16 picks.
    Since you know those sinful vegas juices still flow in me, I'll bet you pride again on this term's Senators.
    You're just not seeing the light on Landrieu,
    especially when you compare her to their other Senator, Vitter.

    Quote Originally Posted by Perotista View Post
    Obamastan, now that gave me a chuckle. I too voted for Gary Johnson, but not as a protest vote, as a vote for whom I thought would make the best president. Romney won Georgia, but it was closer than it should have been here. A lot of Republicans really didn't trust Romney and when they voted, there wasn't the enthusiasm I seen from them in the past.

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    Re: How important is voting?

    Quote Originally Posted by Quik View Post
    Yes, but then you have to remember that he is a liar and a cheat. He's flipped flopped so many times that there really is no "real Mitt." And we saw what he did to Ron Paul throughout the primary process and the RNC, I'd hate to see what happens when he had any kind of real power.

    My fear is that with Romney we'd actually probably have the vaunted gun control legislation because the political tides would have shifted, Romney would have convinced all the RINOs/CINOs to jump on board especially after Newtown, and the left especially would have been galvanized had Romney won.

    I also think we might be at war in Syria right now if Romney won, possibly Iran. Who knows what he would have done to Rand Paul...
    I don't think so.
    Yes, he did change his position on a lot of issues. He had to come across as a "real" conservative in order to get the nomination, but then was able to run as who he was in the general. If he hadn't tried to lean way over to the right, the stupid Republicans might have nominated Perry or Cain, or one of the other nutters who had no chance at all of winning the general election.

    I don't base my opinions of candidates on what they say in the heat of the campaign nearly as much as on what those candidates have done in the past.

    Of course, all that is academic now. I don't ever expect him to run again.

    Gary Johnson would have been the right choice, but then, he had no chance of winning ever.
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    Re: How important is voting?

    Quote Originally Posted by NIMBY View Post
    Just because it's you, I'll go off topic.
    The bottom 16 teams in the NFL with the top 16 picks will do a far
    worse job with their picks than the best 16 teams with the lower 16 picks.
    Since you know those sinful vegas juices still flow in me, I'll bet you pride again on this term's Senators.
    You're just not seeing the light on Landrieu,
    especially when you compare her to their other Senator, Vitter.
    Not seeing the light this far out on the senate is no surprise. On Landrieu it all depends whom the Republicans nominate. McCaskill had no business in winning in Missouri, she only have a 39% favorable rating and was easy pickings until the republican nominate Akin who ended up with only 31% favorable rating. So everything depends on whom get nominated. LA is not ND or MT or even IN where the Dems won last year. I do think she is in trouble if the GOP nominate a decent candidate and stays away from the Aikens and Moudocks, the Angles and O'Donnells.
    This Reform Party member thinks it is high past time that we start electing Americans to congress and the presidency who put America first and their political party further down the line. But for way too long we have been electing Republicans and Democrats who happen to be Americans instead of Americans who happen to be Republicans and Democrats.

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    Re: How important is voting?

    Quote Originally Posted by Dittohead not! View Post
    You mean those who would impose their morals on the rest of us by force of law?


    well what I was getting at is those who paid no income taxes, and receive from government and then vote take more from those who produce and demonize those same people.

    if we get into morals, social conservatives want to use government to make people moral.

    but progressive /liberals want to use discrimination laws to force people to be moral........discrimination laws are morality laws.

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    Re: How important is voting?

    Quote Originally Posted by ernst barkmann View Post
    well what I was getting at is those who paid no income taxes, and receive from government and then vote take more from those who produce and demonize those same people.

    if we get into morals, social conservatives want to use government to make people moral.

    but progressive /liberals want to use discrimination laws to force people to be moral........discrimination laws are morality laws.
    Correct, so both sides want to use the law to impose their morality on the rest of us. The purpose of government, however, is not to try to make people "moral", but to protect our god given rights.
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    Re: How important is voting?

    As import, very important as voting is - informed or uninformed - A man must intelligently write his congressman often..
    At least force him to acknowledge that you care.
    The same can be done a local government and at school board meetings..

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    Re: How important is voting?

    Quote Originally Posted by ernst barkmann View Post
    well what I was getting at is those who paid no income taxes, and receive from government and then vote take more from those who produce and demonize those same people.

    if we get into morals, social conservatives want to use government to make people moral.Now this is scary, very disturbing..IMO, morals are not the business of government, but that of the church....and the people......NOT their government !

    but progressive /liberals want to use discrimination laws to force people to be moral........discrimination laws are morality laws.
    I for one am progressive, and am cool to the idea of forcing people to be moral...
    And, Mr "Right", I'd suggest that you speak with one on welfare....rather than right wing hate radio....
    Or, do you think that those on welfare should not be allowed to vate ??

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    Re: How important is voting?

    Quote Originally Posted by ernst barkmann View Post
    i dont think you even know what your are talking about in this situation.

    and i made no statement supporting any position, i stated what was created in early american history.

    your weak arguments are getting as bad as sangha's.
    You don't need to make a specific statement in this thread, you've made plenty in others.
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    Re: How important is voting?

    Quote Originally Posted by ernst barkmann View Post
    yes, those that only take and give nothing in return.
    So if economic upheaval that was none of your doing puts you out of a job you also lose your voting status?

    Quote Originally Posted by ernst barkmann View Post
    those that want to use the power of government to prey on others, for their benefit.
    Yes, the corporations are quite good at government manipulation. In America money talks and no one has more than them.
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    Re: How important is voting?

    Quote Originally Posted by radcen View Post
    Are you part of the solution, or are you part of the problem?

    • If you're an idiot/uninformed voter, you're part of the problem. You're lazy and/or a sucker for the politicians.
    • If you don't vote at all, because you don't care (and, hence are probably not even here at Debate Politics to read this), you're part of the problem. You're letting the politicians have their way unchallenged.
    • If you don't vote at all, because you think it's futile, you're part of the problem. I don't give a rat's arse how informed you are, or even if you're correct in your conclusions, you're still a sucker for the politicians by providing complicit approval for their actions.
    • I'd rather you be incorrect and vote (provided you're sincere and earnest in your research), than correct and not vote. You may not be correct in your conclusions, but at least you're not a sucker or an enabler. I can accept that.


    Personally, I don't deny the feelings of futility, but at the very least I'm not approving and I can say, "Don't blame me, I didn't approve of what they're doing(by either my action or inaction)."
    I would add that if you don't vote then you lose the right to complain about the government. That said, I think voting is becoming futile, if it wasn't already and sometimes wonder why I bother. So really, the only real reason I vote is so that I can complain. lol

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