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Thread: "The House of Horrors" Gosnell case

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    Re: "The House of Horrors" Gosnell case

    Quote Originally Posted by pbrauer View Post
    The more you restrict it, the more they will go elsewhere, that's the unintended consequence.
    And "going elsewhere" has the same results - the only difference is Gosnell was sloppy.


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    Re: "The House of Horrors" Gosnell case

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    "Pennsylvania, like other states, permits legal abortion within a regulatory framework. Physicians must, for example, provide counseling about the nature of the procedure. Minors must have parental or judicial consent. All women must wait 24 hours after first visiting the facility, in order to fully consider their decision. But Gosnell's compliance with such requirements was casual at best. At the Women's Medical Society, the only question that really mattered was whether you had the cash. Too young? No problem. Didn't want to wait? Gosnell provided same-day service".
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    Alabama enacted a law last week requiring abortion doctors to have permission to perform the procedure at local hospitals, challenging a practice under which clinics bring in physicians from out of town.
    In Virginia, the Board of Health on Friday voted 11-2 to require abortion clinics to meet the same architectural standards required of new hospitals. Abortion-rights groups say the standard is clearly designed to be so costly that clinics will have no choice but to close.
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    Re: "The House of Horrors" Gosnell case

    Quote Originally Posted by pbrauer View Post
    The more you restrict it, the more they will go elsewhere, that's the unintended consequence.
    What would be your "perfect world" approach to abortion? No restrictions at all? Or some? What would they be?


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    Re: "The House of Horrors" Gosnell case

    I would venture to say there are more like him.

    I'm shocked that a case of a "doctor" killing children through means not even suitable for the harshest of criminals isn't more widespread in the media.
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    Re: "The House of Horrors" Gosnell case

    Quote Originally Posted by Josie View Post
    Do you think there are more Kermit Gosnells in this country? (If you don't know the story, you need to know...)

    Abortion Doctor Trial: Coverage of Kermit Gosnell Case Sparks Debate

    If so, what should be done about this?
    The only difference between Gosnell and other abortionists is the degree of sloppiness in Gosnell's methods. Other than that, he did not do anything different than what other abortionists do.
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    Re: "The House of Horrors" Gosnell case

    Quote Originally Posted by Bob Blaylock View Post
    The only difference between Gosnell and other abortionists is the degree of sloppiness in Gosnell's methods. Other than that, he did not do anything different than what other abortionists do.
    Actually, what he did was no different than what the anti-abortion rights moral fascists do - he didn't give a damn about life once it was born.
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    Re: "The House of Horrors" Gosnell case

    Quote Originally Posted by Josie View Post
    Do you think there are more Kermit Gosnells in this country? (If you don't know the story, you need to know...)

    Abortion Doctor Trial: Coverage of Kermit Gosnell Case Sparks Debate

    If so, what should be done about this?
    Good God I hope and pray it's an anomaly but I truly don't know.

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    Re: "The House of Horrors" Gosnell case

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    Actually, what he did was no different than what the anti-abortion rights moral fascists do - he didn't give a damn about life once it was born.
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    Re: "The House of Horrors" Gosnell case

    Quote Originally Posted by Josie View Post
    Do you think there are more Kermit Gosnells in this country?


    I don't know. What good can it do to speculate on matters without knowing wheher or not they are true?

    Quote Originally Posted by Josie View Post
    If so, what should be done about this?
    Arrest him and try him in court.

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    Re: "The House of Horrors" Gosnell case

    Quote Originally Posted by digsbe View Post
    I'm shocked that a case of a "doctor" killing children through means not even suitable for the harshest of criminals isn't more widespread in the media.
    Are you really?
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