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Thread: "The House of Horrors" Gosnell case

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    Re: "The House of Horrors" Gosnell case

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    Show me it is.
    I want to know how many abortion clinics like Gosnell's have gone without inspection for years like his did. Don't you want to make sure they're all inspected to make sure this isn't happening elsewhere?


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    Re: "The House of Horrors" Gosnell case

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    And every woman has the right to take an unborn childs life. So you're wrong about that too.
    Yes, I know they do. I said that. And it sickens me that you can say that so nonchalantly.


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    Re: "The House of Horrors" Gosnell case

    Quote Originally Posted by Josie View Post
    Yes, I know they do. I said that. And it sickens me that you can say that so nonchalantly.
    That's OK. You're not the first woman I've sickened
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    Re: "The House of Horrors" Gosnell case

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    That's OK. You're not the first woman I've sickened
    I don't doubt it.


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    Re: "The House of Horrors" Gosnell case

    Quote Originally Posted by Josie View Post
    I want to know how many abortion clinics like Gosnell's have gone without inspection for years like his did. Don't you want to make sure they're all inspected to make sure this isn't happening elsewhere?
    When an Oklahoma dental clinic was found to be exposing patients to AIDS and Hepatitis, did you suddenly become concerned with all the dentist offices that "have gone without inspections for years"? Or did you, like a rational person, realize that what happens in one dentist's office doesn't automatically reflect on every dentist office in the country?

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    Re: "The House of Horrors" Gosnell case

    Quote Originally Posted by Josie View Post
    I want to know how many abortion clinics like Gosnell's have gone without inspection for years like his did. Don't you want to make sure they're all inspected to make sure this isn't happening elsewhere?
    So you want a national witch hunt based on what was Philadelphia's failure to check up on the sanitary state of abortion clinics? Nonsense. First:

    1. Show that there is a large number of clinics who haven't been inspected.
    2. Then ask for them to be inspected.
    3. Show that there is a large number of illegal abortions taking place.

    If you can't show #1 - all of which is public record - then no - I don't really care for your national witch hunt. Let's start simple, let Philadelphia conduct an inspection of it's abortion clinics, if a sizeable percentage are found to be conducting illegal abortions - then maybe I'll side on the need for a national witch hunt.

    However, even if we start one, an un-inspected abortion facility does not equate to illegal abortions or unsanitary conditions. Even if they're all inspected and say 5% of them haven't been inspected in 10 years, what does that have to do with illegal abortions or unsanitary conditions? Non inspection can be due to budget cuts or simple bureaucratic mismanagement. It says nothing about illegality or the uncleanliness of a place.
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    Re: "The House of Horrors" Gosnell case

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    So you want a national witch hunt based on what was Philadelphia's failure to check up on the sanitary state of abortion clinics? Nonsense. First:

    1. Show that there is a large number of clinics who haven't been inspected.
    2. Then ask for them to be inspected.

    If you can't show #1 - all of which is public record - then no - I don't really care for your national witch hunt.
    It's not a "witch hunt" to do inspections that are already on the books. Gosnell's clinic obviously wasn't being inspected for years on end and no one knew it. How did that happen? It needs to be looked in to. If any clinics aren't being inspected, they need to be immediately. Agreed?


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    Re: "The House of Horrors" Gosnell case

    Quote Originally Posted by ThePlayDrive View Post
    When an Oklahoma dental clinic was found to be exposing patients to AIDS and Hepatitis, did you suddenly become concerned with all the dentist offices that "have gone without inspections for years"? Or did you, like a rational person, realize that what happens in one dentist's office doesn't automatically reflect on every dentist office in the country?
    Wouldn't you be concerned with any sort of medical practice that hadn't been inspected in years? Would you want to eat at a restaurant that hadn't had an inspection from the Health Department in years? Ew.


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    Re: "The House of Horrors" Gosnell case

    Quote Originally Posted by clownboy View Post
    Thanks Gina, don't know where I got the idea I can see your location listed. But it doesn't negate my other comments. Tiller did indeed do partial birth abortion. He used the foreceps through the crown method.
    You are confusing a regular D and E which is legal with intact D and E which was banned.

    Forceps through the crown is a regular D and E and is legal.

    Intact D and E is type of abortion which is often referred to as partial birth abortion.

    In that type of abortion the fetus is removed with head intact.

    Now that intact D and E has been banned the skull of a fetus past 20 weeks gestation is crushed during a legal abortion so it can fit through the non dilated cervix.
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    Re: "The House of Horrors" Gosnell case

    Quote Originally Posted by minnie616 View Post
    You are confusing a regular D and E which is legal with intact D and E which was banned.

    Forceps through the crown is a regular D and E and is legal.

    Intact D and E is type of abortion which is often referred to as partial birth abortion.

    In that type of abortion the fetus is removed with head intact.

    Now that intact D and E has been banned the skull of a fetus past 20 weeks gestation is crushed during and abortion so it can fit through the non dilated cervix.
    How can that NOT make you cringe?


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