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    Re: "The House of Horrors" Gosnell case

    Quote Originally Posted by Josie View Post
    Because it's not just a simple procedure to rid the body of some cells?
    Why are you trying to put words in my mouth?
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    Re: "The House of Horrors" Gosnell case

    Quote Originally Posted by Gina View Post
    You are welcome.

    Whichever procedure he performed, it was legal and that's the difference between him and Gosnell, cb.
    Oh yes, I knew it was legal, still, having once witnessed the procedure I cannot shake how wrong it is, legal or not.

    That aside I find your pro-choice view reasonable. But then we both know the debate isn't ruled by those of us with reason on either side of the issue. The loud-shouters and cheerleaders have the field and suck the air out of the room.

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    Re: "The House of Horrors" Gosnell case

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    Why are you trying to put words in my mouth?
    I wasn't! You said you couldn't think of the words and I was ASKING you if that's what you thought. There was a QUESTION MARK. Jeez louise.


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    Re: "The House of Horrors" Gosnell case

    Quote Originally Posted by Josie View Post
    I want to hear your opinion instead of presupposing what you think, Gina. I'm weird like that.

    I guess I just don't understand why the feeling is there to have abortion be rare if it's just a simple procedure to get rid of some cells.
    But you asked the question Josie, so I was curious as to your thoughts why we wouldn't want it to be rare.

    A woman undergoing an abortion is not clicking her heels. It's not like changing hair color. I guess you don't know anyone who has had one if you can describe it like that. There is a poster here who described her experience and she certainly wasn't.

    All of the women whom I know who have had an abortion, thought long and hard about it. It wasn't a cavalier or capricious decision. They considered if there was a way to go through with the pregnancy, but none were in the position to do so. Relationship status, economics, the response of their family and continuing with their education were amongst the reasons they chose to abort. It's not a happy day. Why would I want lots of women to go through that? They aren't monsters and all of them became mothers later.
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    Re: "The House of Horrors" Gosnell case

    Quote Originally Posted by Josie View Post
    A question for pro-choicers - why do you want abortions to be rare?
    Silliest question I've heard in quite a time.

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    Re: "The House of Horrors" Gosnell case

    Quote Originally Posted by Gina View Post
    A woman undergoing an abortion is not clicking her heels. It's not like changing hair color. I guess you don't know anyone who has had one if you can describe it like that. There is a poster here who described her experience and she certainly wasn't.
    That's where my experience differs. I was an LVN in the late 70s at a hospital (in CA) that did abortions (they ceased this subsequently). So many of the abortions were obviously being used as after the fact birth control. The hospital stopped offering the procedure when repeat customers became the majority.

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    Re: "The House of Horrors" Gosnell case

    Quote Originally Posted by clownboy View Post
    Oh yes, I knew it was legal, still, having once witnessed the procedure I cannot shake how wrong it is, legal or not.

    That aside I find your pro-choice view reasonable. But then we both know the debate isn't ruled by those of us with reason on either side of the issue. The loud-shouters and cheerleaders have the field and suck the air out of the room.
    CB, I support late term abortion to save the life of the mother, or if the fetus is dead or other necessary extreme cases. So I understand what you are saying.

    Thank you. I wish the reasonable of either side controlled the debate. Sucking is a great adjective for what goes on in the place of clear headed discussion.
    I don't attack my constituents. Bob is my constituent now.
    This is the important stuff. We canít get lost in discrimination. We canít get lost in B.S. We canít get lost tearing each other down. I want to make a point here that no matter what you look like, where you come from, how you worship, who you love, how you identify, and yeah, how you run, that if you have good public policy ideas, if you are well qualified for office, bring those ideas to the table, because this is your America, too. This is our commonwealth of Virginia, too.
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    Re: "The House of Horrors" Gosnell case

    Quote Originally Posted by Gina View Post
    But you asked the question Josie, so I was curious as to your thoughts why we wouldn't want it to be rare.

    A woman undergoing an abortion is not clicking her heels. It's not like changing hair color. I guess you don't know anyone who has had one if you can describe it like that. There is a poster here who described her experience and she certainly wasn't.
    Actually I've heard many women here and elsewhere who joke about their abortions and even applaud others for having abortions.

    Quote Originally Posted by Gina View Post
    All of the women whom I know who have had an abortion, thought long and hard about it. It wasn't a cavalier or capricious decision. They considered if there was a way to go through with the pregnancy, but none were in the position to do so. Relationship status, economics, the response of their family and continuing with their education were amongst the reasons they chose to abort. It's not a happy day. Why would I want lots of women to go through that? They aren't monsters and all of them became mothers later.
    So actually we all believe the same thing (there IS a human being growing inside of you). It's just that some pro-choicers feel kinda bad about ending that life, but still feel morally okay about going ahead with it. And pro-lifers cannot even fathom doing that to their child. Kinda like a mercy killing, I guess. I don't want to put words into your mouth, though. Is that how you view it?


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    Re: "The House of Horrors" Gosnell case

    Quote Originally Posted by pbrauer View Post
    Silliest question I've heard in quite a time.
    Not really. How many times have we heard that abortions are just a simple procedure to rid the woman's body of some cells? It's not anything horrific or inhumane or murderous, they have said. It's just a parasite being removed from the body. It's like taking a tumor out! <<< all things I've heard from pro-choicers about abortions.

    So if you want it to be rare, you must be placing some sort of moral relevance on it. If you have to think long and hard about having an abortion, something must be tugging at your heartstrings about it. Maybe it's NOT just a clump of cells. Maybe it's a human being.


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    Re: "The House of Horrors" Gosnell case

    Quote Originally Posted by Gina View Post
    CB, I support late term abortion to save the life of the mother, or if the fetus is dead or other necessary extreme cases. So I understand what you are saying.
    As do I, and can't imagine the horror of having to make such a decision. If anyone I knew and loved had to do that, make that terrible choice, and some asshat said boo to them about it, I'd take a bat to the commenter (and I am pro-life).

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