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    Re: Should the boy scouts allow openly gay scouts and scoutmasters.

    I don't think the Boy Scouts should hire either openly gay or openly straight people.

    By that, I mean people who are in a position of trust in the Boy Scouts have no business expressing their sexuality to the kids whether they are gay or straight. That's not their job. Conversely, if any person hired is only doing their job, it shouldn't matter whether they are gay or straight.

    Now...with the issue of protecting the kids from predatory adults, I think the Boy Scouts have a responsibility to ensure the safety of the kids whether it be from predation from gay, straight, male or female people in positions of trust.
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    Re: Should the boy scouts allow openly gay scouts and scoutmasters.

    Quote Originally Posted by Mycroft View Post
    I don't think the Boy Scouts should hire either openly gay or openly straight people.

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    In this particular context, exactly what behavior would reveal someone to be "openly straight" and should therefore be prohibited in Boy Scout hiring practices?

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    Re: Should the boy scouts allow openly gay scouts and scoutmasters.

    Quote Originally Posted by Ray410 View Post
    In this particular context, exactly what behavior would reveal someone to be "openly straight" and should therefore be prohibited in Boy Scout hiring practices?
    As I said...expressing their sexuality.

    If a man gets up in front of the kids and says, "Okay, boys...I'm gay." BUZZZT!!! That guy is out of there.

    If a man gets up in front of the kids and says, "Okay, boys...I like women." BUZZZT!!! That guy is out of there.

    If a man gets up in front of the kids and says, "Okay, boys...we are going camping...we are going to learn to build a rope bridge." YEAH!!! That guy stays.
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    Re: Should the boy scouts allow openly gay scouts and scoutmasters.

    Quote Originally Posted by Dr. Chuckles View Post
    Because they don't want to and see such as morally wrong? Honestly, I'm always perplexed by people getting caught up with what organizations are doing, that they likely have no interest in.

    You don't like BSoA policy? Great, don't send your kid there.
    That is not a logical reason.

    Note that the question was not whether the Boy Scouts should have to allow gay people, but whether I think they should.
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    Re: Should the boy scouts allow openly gay scouts and scoutmasters.

    Quote Originally Posted by Paschendale View Post
    Yes. Discrimination is inconsistent with the lessons on quality of character that the Boy Scouts aims to teach its members. It probably needs to knock off all of the overtly religious elements, too. The Boy Scouts has a policy of discrimination against non-monotheists as well. With regard to both issues, it is impossible to teach good moral values and discrimination. One precludes the other.



    For example. Moral straightness and discrimination based on sexuality or religion are completely incompatible.
    Religion yes, sexuality no.
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    Re: Should the boy scouts allow openly gay scouts and scoutmasters.

    Quote Originally Posted by radcen View Post
    That wasn't the question (though it's obvious NP is doing some baiting here). Lots of people do things that have no logical purpose, but that doesn't relate to whether or not said practice should be allowed or disallowed.
    The question was whether they should allow. My reasoning for why they should allow gays in the boy scouts is that there is no logical reason not to. That is exactly the question.
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    Re: Should the boy scouts allow openly gay scouts and scoutmasters.

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    The question was whether they should allow. My reasoning for why they should allow gays in the boy scouts is that there is no logical reason not to. That is exactly the question.
    Certainly it's true that there is no logical reason that you will accept.

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    Re: Should the boy scouts allow openly gay scouts and scoutmasters.

    Quote Originally Posted by Ray410 View Post
    Certainly it's true that there is no logical reason that you will accept.
    There is no logical reason, period.
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    Re: Should the boy scouts allow openly gay scouts and scoutmasters.

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    That is not a logical reason.
    I didn't think it was, but it would inform you on why " they would not allow openly gay scouts or scoutmasters."

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    Re: Should the boy scouts allow openly gay scouts and scoutmasters.

    Quote Originally Posted by Dr. Chuckles View Post
    I didn't think it was, but it would inform you on why " they would not allow openly gay scouts or scoutmasters."
    They do not need a reason, they are a private organization. I was simply explaining why in my opinion they should allow it.
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