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    Re: Should the boy scouts allow openly gay scouts and scoutmasters.

    Quote Originally Posted by Navy Pride View Post
    Please give your opinion and no personal attacks.
    If we think we can trust female heterosexual teachers to teach boys, and male heterosexual teachers to teach girls, I don't see why we shouldn't allow homosexual males to teach boys and homosexual females to teach girls.

    I don't think a sense of responsibility towards underage people you're guiding or teaching has anything to do with sexual orientation, and I don't believe homosexuals can be trusted less to have this sense of responsibility in general, than heterosexuals.
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    Re: Should the boy scouts allow openly gay scouts and scoutmasters.

    Quote Originally Posted by WCH View Post
    I keep seeing...Sodomy Badges
    Because homosexuals area basically child rapists?
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    Re: Should the boy scouts allow openly gay scouts and scoutmasters.

    I just have a question for parents who are up in arms about this: When do you begin to let go and teach your kids about tolerance and the real world? Are you gonna call the school and demand the gay kid is removed? Later on, when they're assigned a gay roommate, are you gonna call the college and demand a room swap? Maybe call your kid's first boss and demand the worker of 40 years in the next cubicle is fired? The whole thing is too ridiculous. Over protection has consequences, and for those saying "Well you aren't in the scouts/military/whatever, why do you care?" it's something called empathy.

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    Re: Should the boy scouts allow openly gay scouts and scoutmasters.

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    Because homosexuals area basically child rapists?
    Mostly recruiters. Gotta keep a fresh selection.

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    Re: Should the boy scouts allow openly gay scouts and scoutmasters.

    Quote Originally Posted by rocket88 View Post
    Why are you thinking about that? Hoping to earn one?
    I have Gay friends who might be interested. You up for some fun?

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    Re: Should the boy scouts allow openly gay scouts and scoutmasters.

    Quote Originally Posted by WCH View Post
    I keep seeing...Sodomy Badges
    Are there S&M badges as well? Even heterosexual teens have their kinks. LOL!
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    Re: Should the boy scouts allow openly gay scouts and scoutmasters.

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    Yes....but if a non-profit chooses to discriminate they should lose their tax exempt status.
    I'm kind of on the fence on that one. For places where BSofA actually pays people to work, yes, and I suspect they don't discriminate in filling those jobs. Volunteer work is another area, though.
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    Re: Should the boy scouts allow openly gay scouts and scoutmasters.

    Quote Originally Posted by Removable Mind View Post
    I see that some people still believe that homosexuality is the same as pedophilia. It is not!
    False.

    That's not what they're saying.

    What they're saying is that homosexuals are considerably more likely, per capita percentage, to be pedophiles than heterosexuals.

    That's a fact.

    There are studies that have been done to support that reality -- just Google "are homosexuals more likely to be pedophiles?" and they'll pop right up for you to review.

    And, of course, though one might argue that the very presence of alter "boys" would make it more likely that gay priests would molest boys more often than girls, the studies show that, when that's factored out, homosexuals are still more likely to be pedophiles than heterosexuals.

    The birth defect of homosexuality is simply that, and, therefore, there is no across the board analogy that can be made with the mere difference being the attracted-to gender.

    The birth defect of homosexuality comes complete with other abnormalities .. which, obviously, includes an increased propensity for pedophilia.

    Remember, it's a birth defect, and that defect encompasses a number of brain functions that reflect in behavior attributes.

    There is legitimate concern, to some degree, about homosexuals in the scouts, that the behavior reflected in both the scout oath and motto will be quite an endemic challenge for homosexuals, considerably more so than it is for heterosexuals.
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    Re: Should the boy scouts allow openly gay scouts and scoutmasters.

    Quote Originally Posted by Ontologuy View Post
    False.

    That's not what they're saying.

    What they're saying is that homosexuals are considerably more likely, per capita percentage, to be pedophiles than heterosexuals.

    That's a fact.

    There are studies that have been done to support that reality -- just Google "are homosexuals more likely to be pedophiles?" and they'll pop right up for you to review.

    And, of course, though one might argue that the very presence of alter "boys" would make it more likely that gay priests would molest boys more often than girls, the studies show that, when that's factored out, homosexuals are still more likely to be pedophiles than heterosexuals.

    The birth defect of homosexuality is simply that, and, therefore, there is no across the board analogy that can be made with the mere difference being the attracted-to gender.

    The birth defect of homosexuality comes complete with other abnormalities .. which, obviously, includes an increased propensity for pedophilia.

    Remember, it's a birth defect, and that defect encompasses a number of brain functions that reflect in behavior attributes.

    There is legitimate concern, to some degree, about homosexuals in the scouts, that the behavior reflected in both the scout oath and motto will be quite an endemic challenge for homosexuals, considerably more so than it is for heterosexuals.
    The birth defect of homosexuality is simply that, and, therefore, there is no across the board analogy that can be made with the mere difference being the attracted-to gender.
    REALLY?

    And you know this how?

    The FACT REMAINS...being homosexual is not the same as being a pedophile.

    All of the other comments you made...are simply not relevant to my post.

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    Re: Should the boy scouts allow openly gay scouts and scoutmasters.

    Quote Originally Posted by Removable Mind View Post
    REALLY? And you know this how?
    I've presented the fact that homosexuality, like transsexuality, is a birth defect, in other recent threads, complete with scientific validation, so don't play dumb for "your" audience.


    Quote Originally Posted by Removable Mind View Post
    The FACT REMAINS...being homosexual is not the same as being a pedophile.
    But your fact was meaningless, as it was an inapplicable hyperbole over-reaction on your part.

    No one was saying or implying that homosexuality is pedophilia.

    They were simply making the topically relevant observation that homosexuals have a significantly higher percentage of pedophilia among their ranks than do heterosexuals.

    Your inapplicable hyperbole was named and refuted.


    Quote Originally Posted by Removable Mind View Post
    All of the other comments you made...are simply not relevant to my post.
    Also meaningless, as the DP world doesn't revolve around either your hyperbole over-reaction perception error or your limited post.

    I provided relevant fact-based meaningful presentation to refute your obvious perceptively erroneous hyperbole over-reaction, and thus my presentation was topically germane.
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