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    Re: Should the boy scouts allow openly gay scouts and scoutmasters.

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    I totally and completely disagree. Discrimination based upon immoral behavior is indeed completely moral and is compatible with a moral lifestyle.
    Morality is relative. Therefore, your comment is invalid.
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    Re: Should the boy scouts allow openly gay scouts and scoutmasters.

    Quote Originally Posted by DVSentinel View Post
    Right and wrong are determined by ethical/moral determinations. Since morals and ethics are personal codes of behavior, each individual will decide if it is right or wrong. Since I don't support the "normalizing" of homosexuality, and consider it immoral behavior outside of certain conditions, I have no problem at all with them blocking homosexuals from their private organization. If someone doesn't like it, then don't support them. There is never a good excuse to force others to accept another persons moral/ethical beliefs.
    Do you realize that the comment I placed in bold contradicts everything else you said?
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    Re: Should the boy scouts allow openly gay scouts and scoutmasters.

    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainCourtesy View Post
    Do you realize that the comment I placed in bold contradicts everything else you said?
    It does? Ok, if you say so, but personally I don't see how expressing my opinion and supporting those who share it or similar is in anyway forcing my morals or ethics on someone else. Even the boy scouts, which it is voluntary to join, not mandatory, are not forcing anything upon anyone, don't agree, don't join.
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    Re: Should the boy scouts allow openly gay scouts and scoutmasters.

    Quote Originally Posted by DVSentinel View Post
    It does? Ok, if you say so, but personally I don't see how expressing my opinion and supporting those who share it or similar is in anyway forcing my morals or ethics on someone else. Even the boy scouts, which it is voluntary to join, not mandatory, are not forcing anything upon anyone, don't agree, don't join.
    That's a different matter. Of course they have the option of whether to join or not. But if they do join, they are forced to accept another's morals/ethics. And, if they are NOT gay, but want to accept gays into their troop, the have to accept another's morals/ethics. I agree with what you said in most of your post, and I don't have an issue with the Boy Scouts choosing who they will accept, since they are a private organization. But they ARE forcing their morals on whomever joins.
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    Re: Should the boy scouts allow openly gay scouts and scoutmasters.

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    Re: Should the boy scouts allow openly gay scouts and scoutmasters.

    Nobody should force the boy scouts to do anything, although I believe they should include gays. But I do have to ask: If boy scouts said no black boys would you have the same opinion? As controversial as it is, I would say yes. But I cannot imagine them doing so--racism is simply not tolerable like that any more, for any reason. Hopefully in the next few generations bigotry based on gender will be just as intolerable.
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    Re: Should the boy scouts allow openly gay scouts and scoutmasters.

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    You also have to believe in God to be in Scouts.
    A Lot, if not most gays believe in God....what's your point?
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    Re: Should the boy scouts allow openly gay scouts and scoutmasters.

    Quote Originally Posted by MoSurveyor View Post
    I usually follow your thinking but I don't here. Isn't the BSofA registered as a non-profit as opposed to a religion?
    Yes....but if a non-profit chooses to discriminate they should lose their tax exempt status.
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    Re: Should the boy scouts allow openly gay scouts and scoutmasters.

    I keep seeing...Sodomy Badges

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    Re: Should the boy scouts allow openly gay scouts and scoutmasters.

    Quote Originally Posted by WCH View Post
    I keep seeing...Sodomy Badges
    Why are you thinking about that? Hoping to earn one?


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    This issue has been plowed more times than Paris Hilton.
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