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    Re: Should the boy scouts allow openly gay scouts and scoutmasters.

    Its their call, as I don't know..
    I read moral "straightness" - then the homosexual should be able to join and participate....They deserve a break.
    Its best for the Boy Scout members to decide this, NOT their leaders..

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    Re: Should the boy scouts allow openly gay scouts and scoutmasters.

    Quote Originally Posted by Mycroft View Post
    Does your son get in front of the Scouts and say, "Okay, boys...I like women"?

    If he does, he should be fired.
    My son? I don't know, I think he likes women.

    The leaders tend not to show off porn, if that's what you're getting at. One of the boys has a gay mom and a gay dad (and a gay step-mom and step-dad also). None of them show off, they don't have orgies during the meetings (or if they do, it's at home) but they are all "openly" gay in that they don't try to hide it like it's some shameful secret.


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    Re: Should the boy scouts allow openly gay scouts and scoutmasters.

    Quote Originally Posted by rocket88 View Post
    My son? I don't know, I think he likes women.

    The leaders tend not to show off porn, if that's what you're getting at. One of the boys has a gay mom and a gay dad (and a gay step-mom and step-dad also). None of them show off, they don't have orgies during the meetings (or if they do, it's at home) but they are all "openly" gay in that they don't try to hide it like it's some shameful secret.
    I guess it all gets back to the OP and whatever his definition of "openly gay" is. I gave mine in a previous post.
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    Re: Should the boy scouts allow openly gay scouts and scoutmasters.

    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post
    Correct...but you also have to abide by their rules and their rules state homosexuality is not allowed. Agree and join. Disagree and dont. Life becomes very simple. Ive always marvelled at the people that sought to join agencies bedcause of the values they held only to immediately attempt to change those values. Reminds me of a bumper sticker I once saw. It went something like "Welcome to Texas. Sorry...we dont give a **** how you did it "back home". There's probably a reason you left and we didnt move there."
    Funny, I'm a scout mom, and an open lesbian. No one in our pack cares.
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    Re: Should the boy scouts allow openly gay scouts and scoutmasters.

    You left off any other choices.

    The boy scouts are a private organization and therefore have the right to set any standards they wish. If they wish to not allow homosexuals, then they should be allowed to. They have the right to act as they wish as long as it does not cause physical harm to others.
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    Should the boy scouts allow openly gay scouts and scoutmasters.

    Quote Originally Posted by wolfsgirl View Post
    Funny, I'm a scout mom, and an open lesbian. No one in our pack cares.
    Yet the organization does.

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    Re: Should the boy scouts allow openly gay scouts and scoutmasters.

    Quote Originally Posted by Paschendale View Post
    Yes. Discrimination is inconsistent with the lessons on quality of character that the Boy Scouts aims to teach its members. It probably needs to knock off all of the overtly religious elements, too. The Boy Scouts has a policy of discrimination against non-monotheists as well. With regard to both issues, it is impossible to teach good moral values and discrimination. One precludes the other.



    For example. Moral straightness and discrimination based on sexuality or religion are completely incompatible.
    I totally and completely disagree. Discrimination based upon immoral behavior is indeed completely moral and is compatible with a moral lifestyle.
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    Re: Should the boy scouts allow openly gay scouts and scoutmasters.

    The Boy Scouts have a unique charter with the federal government that gives them special recognition and exempts them from anti-discrimination laws. It should be repealed. Mormom boy Scout troops discriminated against African-Americans up until the 1980s.

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    Re: Should the boy scouts allow openly gay scouts and scoutmasters.

    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post
    Yet the organization does.
    I guess our pack doesn't care what the org says.
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    Re: Should the boy scouts allow openly gay scouts and scoutmasters.

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    And if they choose to engage in discriminatory action excluding gays, they should lose their tax exempt status. You can't have it both ways.
    You also have to believe in God to be in Scouts.
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