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    Re: Dividing the United States

    Quote Originally Posted by GmH View Post
    In my lifetime, I have never seen a President try to divided a country more than Obama.

    Yeah - because the republicans, tea partiers, and conservative idiots on the radio and tv have played absolutely NO part in being divisive and destructive.
    They've had no part in inciting hatred, and never stooped to fear-mongering, smear-tactics, or lying simply to further their cause at the expense of the American people.

    If Obama was so bad for the country why was he elected for a second term? Was it because the Republicans offered a far worse option than Obama?

    Maybe it's because the conservative/republican/right is viewed by most as being a much WORSE option than Obama.

    And if the game plan for the conservative/republican/right doesn't change rather dramatically, it's quite possible another democrap could win the presidency in 2016.

    I'm sure most will agree that Obama isn't the greatest president in history, but what is glaringly clear is the options the conservative/republican/right keep putting up, are worse.

    Worse than Obama. Now that's saying something rather striking.

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    Re: Dividing the United States

    Quote Originally Posted by MMC View Post




    Gallup’s, Jeffrey Jones, in a memo summed up the results, saying,

    Obama’s ratings have been consistently among the most polarized for a president in the last 60 years. That may not be a reflection on Obama himself as much as on the current political environment in the United States, because Obama’s immediate predecessor, Bush, had similarly polarized ratings, particularly in the latter stages of his presidency after the rally in support from the 9/11 terror attacks faded.


    While you digress.....perhaps you should have checked out Post 32......in question which Presidents were being talked about. Moreover why would there need to be Specifics when even the MSM had articles up all about who was the Most Divisive Modern Day President.

    Obama isn't the just the Most divisive either. He is also the most polarizing of Modern Day Presidents.
    None of which speaks to your claim that he's the most racially divisive in modern history. As mentioned before, the opinion piece you used in an attempt to make that claim is absolute junk, as minority centered education initiatives have solid historical precedent.
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    Re: Dividing the United States

    Quote Originally Posted by Cardinal View Post
    As far as I can tell, Obama is "dividing" the country by holding political positions that are not always conservative.
    As far as I can tell, Obama is "dividing" the country by holding political positions that are not always economically sound, morally upright, or logically correct.

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    Re: Dividing the United States

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    None of which speaks to your claim that he's the most racially divisive in modern history. As mentioned before, the opinion piece you used in an attempt to make that claim is absolute junk, as the action has solid historical precedent.

    Yet this changes nothing of what the majority in this country thinks now.....Does it? Doesn't matter what you or I think.....sure those who Support Obama can attempt to deny such. Yet it is the left looking for specific incidents. Even tho Obama was accused of Racially Charged Speeches and all. No other President has been involved in more drama over Race......than Obama.

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    Re: Dividing the United States

    Quote Originally Posted by MMC View Post
    No other President has been involved in more drama over Race......than Obama.
    Geeeee.........who'da thunk it.... first black (half black actually) president ever, and racial drama????? Wow......staggering.

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    Re: Dividing the United States

    Obama’s Racial Crisis
    Our post-racial president has set race relations back decades.

    In the current racial circus, the president of the United States, in addressing an assembly of upscale black professionals and political leaders, adopts the style of a Southern Baptist preacher of the 1960s. He alters his cadences and delivery to both berate and gin up the large audience — posing as a messianic figure who will “march” them out to speak truth to power. In response, the omnipresent Rep. Maxine Waters goes public yet again, to object that the president has no right to rally blacks in this way, when he does not adopt similar tones of admonishment with Jews and gays. (Should Obama try to emulate the way he thinks gays and Jews talk in his next address to them?)

    Hope-and-change has now sunk into little more than a tawdry spectacle of racial spoils, as the president of the United States desperately cobbles together squabbling special-interest racial, ethnic, and gender groups in lieu of restoring the nation’s prosperity. Before the age of Obama, I don’t recall that some members of the Black Caucus were so ready to invite political opponents to “go straight to hell,” or to allege that they were veritable murderers eager to lynch blacks and restore slavery.

    Instead, a new insidious racism is supposedly energizing opposition to Obama, most expressly on the part of the Tea Party. Generally beloved actor Morgan Freeman alleged just that: Racism, not stupid policies, is what is hurting Obama — and by extension blacks in general.

    But does the charge that racism is the basis for Obama’s current unpopularity have any empirical foundation? Barack Obama, himself half white, and a graduate of prep school and Ivy League universities, defeated Hillary Clinton in part because of the help and money of white liberals. He could not have defeated John McCain without sizable white support. The white vote, incidentally, split far more evenly than did the black vote, which went overwhelmingly for Obama, at well over 90 percent.

    Indeed, there is something curious in the liberal argument that Obama, once deified as the ideal megaphone for progressive agendas, is now to be faulted for the current unpopularity of liberalism, given that he remains a far more effective advocate than Jimmy Carter and a far more doctrinaire leftist than Bill Clinton. It is almost as if liberal scapegoating of Obama is an attempt to shift responsibility for progressive failure from the message onto the hapless messenger — an unfairness that a Freeman would never discuss.....snip~

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    Re: Dividing the United States

    Quote Originally Posted by Dragonfly View Post
    Geeeee.........who'da thunk it.... first black (half black actually) president ever, and racial drama????? Wow......staggering.
    Yeah.....Who would have ever thought such besides all those Writers and including at the UK Telegraph and HUFF-PO, huh? Or are you attempting to say some one who is Half White and half Black cant be racial? Do you think there are people who are made up of more than one race and they can be racial and prejudice? What happened.....was there some special rule made up just for them? Or was that one of those go along rules just to make **** up?

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    Re: Dividing the United States

    Quote Originally Posted by MMC View Post
    Yet this changes nothing of what the majority in this country thinks now.....Does it? Doesn't matter what you or I think.....sure those who Support Obama can attempt to deny such. Yet it is the left looking for specific incidents.

    No other President has been involved in more drama over Race......than Obama.
    You have polling data that would indicate the majority feel Obama is the most racially divisive President in modern history? Feel free to share that.

    Johnson, Roosevelt and Kennedy come to mind.

    Also, ease up on that Google result spam, especially when you include Beck, Savage, and a smattering of blogosphere crackpot as sources you deem worthy of sharing.

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    Re: Dividing the United States

    Bottom line is this....Obama has been elected for second term and will be president until 2016 regardless of how much cry-babying some of you people do.

    It'd seem to me to be a far better use of time to stop trying to tear him down, and start trying to build up a candidate that might be able to beat whoever the Dems put up in 2016.

    Good luck with that by the way....because if past efforts are any indication you might be looking at 2020 from the losers bracket as well.

    As I see it - BOTH parties are guilty of creating such a negative environment. By no means is the right innocent in being divisive. If Obama is "the most divisive" it's because the "other side" is feeding into that and nurturing it with reckless abandon.

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    Re: Dividing the United States

    Quote Originally Posted by a351 View Post
    You have polling data that would indicate the majority feel Obama is the most racially divisive President in modern history? Feel free to share that.

    Johnson, Roosevelt and Kennedy come to mind.

    Also, ease up on that Google result spam, especially when you include Beck, Savage, and a smattering of blogosphere crackpot as sources you deem worthy of sharing.
    Hows that HuffPo, Telegraph, Daily News, and National Journal's Online Review doing? Also Beck has an audience of how many? So how many does he influence. Also you tend to forget that many like Savage and others are out there talking about and with those from groups on both sides of the aisle.

    Which I didn't even Put Up anything from Hannity or anything from Fox News. Nor any issue specifically, regarding a racial issue.

    So while there are some that will say Obama is not.....the majority says otherwise.

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