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    Re: Dividing the United States

    Quote Originally Posted by LaMidRighter View Post
    First act is to repeal the NLRB, EPA loses all regulatory power to be deferred back to congress, EPA may only enforce through warrant. Second act, remand health and safety issues to the individual states. Third act, engage in tax reform debate. Fourth act is a complete audit of medical, tort, and insurance law in the U.S. with the goal of streamlining.

    What else ya got?
    Jesus H Mother of Christ, that was all I was asking for. Obviously I don't actually agree with you, but at least you finally answered.

    How, out of curiosity, do you suppose the above will help with our educational system, bring jobs back, take back out lead over China and neutralize the belligerence from North Korea?

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    Re: Dividing the United States

    Quote Originally Posted by Cardinal View Post
    Jesus H Mother of Christ, that was all I was asking for. Obviously I don't actually agree with you, but at least you finally answered.
    You asked me what I thought the problem was. Now, if you don't see where those bodies are getting in the way of economics then I don't know what to tell you. You literally cannot get away from government interference and that stops competition, it keeps startups from getting traction, it stops productivity. All I did was expand what I was talking about.
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    Re: Dividing the United States

    Quote Originally Posted by Rocketman View Post
    We are lucky to have fairly low unemployment and a college in town, so renters are plentiful
    Gotcha, I misunderstood and thought you were flipping. Rental properties are always great if you can stay ahead of taxes and maintenance.
    Neither side in an argument can find the truth when both make an absolute claim on it.

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    Re: Dividing the United States

    Quote Originally Posted by Perotista View Post
    This is very true. I do not know if these luncheons or what ever will work, it may be a beginning or it may not. It may be that Obama is serious, then again it may be just for publicity to show independents he is trying to reach across the aisle. Yep, for sure, time will tell.
    That's exactly what it is all about.....I would recommend checking out Guy Benson, Hugh Hewitt, Michael Medved, and Dennis Prager all have been up on this issue of Obama and his alleged intentions.

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    Re: Dividing the United States

    Quote Originally Posted by Cardinal View Post
    All you've provided is vague rhetoric and zero ideas. If I used the same argument with the politician of your liking you'd laugh me out of this forum (and rightfully so). But if all you can provide is fuzzy feelings and zero specifics then it reveals you don't understand very clearly yourself what you don't like about Obama's leadership.
    Obama is the most racially-divisive U.S. president in modern history.....



    On Thursday, President Barack Obama signed an executive order creating the White House Initiative on Educational Excellence for African Americans which will be implemented by the Department of Education.

    An excerpt from the order places a goal on "increasing college access and success for African American students and providing support to help ensure that a greater percentage of African Americans complete college and contribute to the goal of having America again lead the world in the proportion of adults who are college graduates by 2020, in part through strategies to strengthen the capacity of institutions of higher education that serve large numbers of African American students, including community colleges, HBCUs, Predominantly Black Institutions (PBIs), and other institutions," (Sec. 2, subsec. VII).

    Of course, Obama was not talking about "every child," but only black children.

    Of course, there exists in this country a tremendous double-standard in regards to who is given a pass to preach and practice racism. However, we cannot be intimidated by left-wing Congressmen, nor by an illegitimate press which works for them. We must confront their dishonest claims with the truth.

    This man who has come out of nowhere and is now the President of the United States appears to be a racist, and he must be identified as such.

    Can you imagine the furor that would erupt over a 'White House Initiative on Educational Excellence for White Americans?'.....snip~

    Obama is the most racially-divisive U.S. president in modern history - Virginia Beach Conservative | Examiner.com

    Here was one Specific despite the Gallup material I put up.....did you still need more material as to Obama being the Most Divisive President in modern Day History.

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    Re: Dividing the United States

    Quote Originally Posted by MMC View Post
    A cringe worthy claim. I mean, are we including pre-civil rights era presidents in our definition of modern here? Also, this opinion piece from the Virginia Beach Conservative happens to ignore prior initiatives aimed at increasing educational opportunities for minority groups, such as the White House initiative on Educational Excellence for Hispanics, started under George Bush Sr. Of course neither initiative is inherently racist, but I digress.

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    Re: Dividing the United States

    Quote Originally Posted by GmH View Post
    In my lifetime, I have never seen a President try to divided a country more than Obama. He campaigned on being the great uniter and ends up being just the opposite. The examples are too numerous to list.
    are you sure it is Obama dividing the nation?

    Political Polarization

    Americans have become more politically polarized than at any time in the past 25 years, according to a major survey released Monday by the Pew Research Center.

    Pew measured partisan differences on 48 areas that it has tracked since 1987, and the average partisan gap has nearly doubled, from 10 percent to 18 percent. Partisan divisions have grown most noticeably over the role of the social safety net, environmental protection, immigration, and the federal government’s scope and performance, with Democrats moving to the left and Republicans moving to the right.

    Nearly all the increases occurred during the presidencies of George W. Bush and Barack Obama
    Pew survey: Partisan polarization in US hits 25-year high - CSMonitor.com
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    Re: Dividing the United States

    Quote Originally Posted by a351 View Post
    A cringe worthy claim. I mean, are we including pre-civil rights era presidents in our definition of modern here? Also, this opinion piece from the Virginia Beach Conservative happens to ignore prior initiatives aimed at increasing educational opportunities for minority groups, such as the White House initiative on Educational Excellence for Hispanics, started under George Bush Sr. Of course neither initiative is inherently racist, but I digress.




    Gallup’s, Jeffrey Jones, in a memo summed up the results, saying,

    Obama’s ratings have been consistently among the most polarized for a president in the last 60 years. That may not be a reflection on Obama himself as much as on the current political environment in the United States, because Obama’s immediate predecessor, Bush, had similarly polarized ratings, particularly in the latter stages of his presidency after the rally in support from the 9/11 terror attacks faded.


    While you digress.....perhaps you should have checked out Post 32......in question which Presidents were being talked about. Moreover why would there need to be Specifics when even the MSM had articles up all about who was the Most Divisive Modern Day President.

    Obama isn't the just the Most divisive either. He is also the most polarizing of Modern Day Presidents.

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    Re: Dividing the United States

    Bush had it for 3 years and now Obama is Thee Man.....and this was without 2012 or anything going forward with Obama.


    Obama, Bush: Polarizing presidents.....

    Gallup's bottom line:

    Obama ran his successful 2008 presidential campaign partly on bringing Americans together, but that has not been the case in practice to date. Republicans rarely say they approve of the job he is doing, while Democrats rarely say they disapprove. Thus, Obama's ratings have been consistently among the most polarized for a president in the last 60 years.

    That may not be a reflection on Obama himself as much as on the current political environment in the United States, because Obama's immediate predecessor, Bush, had similarly polarized ratings, particularly in the latter stages of his presidency after the rally in support from the 9/11 terror attacks faded.

    Given the typical pattern in which presidents' ratings tend to be most polarized in their fourth year in office, when presidents are seeking re-election, Republicans' and Democrats' views of Obama may diverge even further this year.....snip~

    Obama, Bush: Polarizing presidents

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    Re: Dividing the United States

    No vote......overly controlled...and a vote would be useless and silly.
    A man could check off "Abraham Lincoln"......and, as far as that goes, be correct.
    Its the conservative extremists, those without tolerance and love who are doing this "dividing" , if it exists.
    We have far too much lying (propaganda ) in our nation and far too little truth..
    Lying is NOT telling the whole truth and only the truth....
    For this I use NPR , C-Span, and PBS, even then, a grain of salt is used.
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