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Thread: Dividing the United States

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    Re: Dividing the United States

    Quote Originally Posted by Dragonfly View Post
    Bottom line is this....Obama has been elected for second term and will be president until 2016 regardless of how much cry-babying some of you people do.

    It'd seem to me to be a far better use of time to stop trying to tear him down, and start trying to build up a candidate that might be able to beat whoever the Dems put up in 2016.

    Good luck with that by the way....because if past efforts are any indication you might be looking at 2020 from the losers bracket as well.

    As I see it - BOTH parties are guilty of creating such a negative environment. By no means is the right innocent in being divisive. If Obama is "the most divisive" it's because the "other side" is feeding into that and nurturing it with reckless abandon.
    By golly, you're right. There should never be criticism of the President, ever. After all, he was elected. Don't you get it? E. Lect. Ed.

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    Re: Dividing the United States

    But Hannity TOLD me that Obama is divisive.What else do I need?

    Freed of the necessity to think, I can devote more of my attention to more important matters like American Idol and the Kardashians.
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    Re: Dividing the United States

    Quote Originally Posted by Dragonfly View Post
    Bottom line is this....Obama has been elected for second term and will be president until 2016 regardless of how much cry-babying some of you people do.

    It'd seem to me to be a far better use of time to stop trying to tear him down, and start trying to build up a candidate that might be able to beat whoever the Dems put up in 2016.

    Good luck with that by the way....because if past efforts are any indication you might be looking at 2020 from the losers bracket as well.

    As I see it - BOTH parties are guilty of creating such a negative environment. By no means is the right innocent in being divisive. If Obama is "the most divisive" it's because the "other side" is feeding into that and nurturing it with reckless abandon.
    Course no one said those on the Right weren't as divisive or polarizing. Despite the cries about those on the Right and the Whining of what they have caused. Even tho it was pointed out that Bush held the title for 3 years.

    But the real bottomline is this.....30 Republican States, plus we have the House and the Money......which means no one needs to give in or kiss Obama's Azz. Not to mention there are 20 Democrat seats up in the Senate. Plus now there will be a few more that will be in some trouble over this gun legislation.

    Obama is nothing more than a Lame Duck.....who is about to be sent off as a Carrier Pigeon.

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    Re: Dividing the United States

    Quote Originally Posted by MMC View Post
    Hows that HuffPo, Telegraph, Daily News, and National Journal's Online Review doing?

    Also Beck has an audience of how many?

    Also you tend to forget that many like Savage and others are out there talking about and with those from groups on both sides of the aisle.

    Which I didn't even Put Up anything from Hannity or anything from Fox News.

    So while there are some that will say Obama is not.....the majority says otherwise.
    What? Point to an instance where I've touted any of those sources as reputable. Ever.

    Who cares?

    Again, who cares? Beck and Savage are absolute crackpots and shouldn't be taken seriously by anyone. Their opinions carry no more weight on any given issue than the "End is nigh" sign carriers under the overpass.

    Never claimed you did. Reading comprehension anyone?

    Blogs and bonehead commentators do not make up a majority.

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    Re: Dividing the United States

    Quote Originally Posted by Goshin View Post
    My point was it reminds me of the Carter years. Doom and gloom, high energy prices, everyone in a panic about something, foreign threats multiplying... and no sign of effective leadership.
    Oh HAIL NO! I was there as well. The Carter years and for that matter the Reagan years had the collapse of the S&L industry, Arab strangle hold on oil supplied to the USofA, Middle East wars we didn't start, and a real cold War with a Super Power that could wipe us off the face of the earth.

    Now if by 'effective' leadership you mean running us off the fiscal cliff one more time, or launching ill thought through wars far from our shores and having little to do with national defense then yes we don't have that sort of 'effective' and thank goodness we don't, we can't stand another Iraqi 'victory'

    Doom and gloom- seems I hear nothing but that from the party not in the White House even as the indicators seem to be righting themselves. Despite all right wing ranting to the contrary the nation does seem to be coming back out of the near total collapse of our financial system. After meltdown of our diplomatic ties with our long time and long term allies over Iraqi and the strain that put on the Army we are coming back to a more mature relationship with our allies and finally addressing the over spending and ill conceived defense industry pet projects.

    Ever since I can remember, and I can remember quite a ways back, Presidents have all given lip service to taming our dependence on oil, and yet any attempt to do so gets attacked as weak willy and some how Un-American. Arnold puffing his tobacco dick cigars, driving his Hummer and attacking his opponents as girlie men seems the poster child for the 'conservative' mindset.

    The doom and gloom might be among certain folks who have thought the 'good ol' days' of the 50's is where we should freeze the nation. Problem is the rest of the world won't freeze in their subservient positions of back then.

    While I don't think some very major problems will be effectively addressed the 'doom and gloom' factor is no where near the Oil crisis days, no where near the stagflation period, our misery index????

    Please show me where the misery index is higher now than during Carter's years. Please show me where 'trickle down' has worked.

    I just went and looked the misery indexes up-

    Carter 22%
    BushII 11.4%
    Obama 12.6%

    Current 9.68%
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    Re: Dividing the United States

    Quote Originally Posted by a351 View Post
    What? Point to an instance where I've touted any of those sources as reputable. Ever.

    Who cares?

    Again, who cares? Beck and Savage are absolute crackpots and shouldn't be taken seriously by anyone. Their opinions carry no more weight on any given issue than the "End is nigh" sign carriers under the overpass.

    Never claimed you did. Reading comprehension anyone?

    Blogs and bonehead commentators do not make up a majority.
    Right but then there is All that talk about all those on the Extreme Right.....then you tout all the Tea partiers. Then all Conservatives, Then All Republicans, which doesn't count any Independents. Moreover Guiterriez of Illinois accused Obama over the same thing with the Hispanics and Immigration. Plus there are hundreds of Articles about Hispanic and Black relations and as to why they are racial towards one another.

    Who cares? All those that think Obama is a racially divisive President. Now do you think for one moment they care what others think? Do you think they can run around and say the same damn thing? Who Cares? Even Better would be who gives a **** as to who don't think the same thing as they do. Why would it even matter about those who oppose such a notion and what they think?

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    Re: Dividing the United States

    I don't think any of the presidents listed, were necessarily divisive, except Premier Obama. He is the only one I remember that actually seems to work towards it instead of it being an inadvertent byproduct of attempting to govern. Although, in many cases he has tried to be politically "smart" about it and let/encouraged his VP to make the more controversial statements.

    Obama is, however, a symptom of the disease, not the disease itself. The disease is how Americans have reacted to changes, the greater adoption of socialistic ideals to sate their greed instead of working hard for what they get, and actually goes back much further than the times of the Presidents/Premiers listed. Some, Liberals and those further left on the spectrum have adopted socialist ideas and are trying to enslave us with socialism. This however was in response to growing corporatism which tries to enslave us to corporate entities. The people who just don't want to be enslaved by anyone are now left with fight or die.
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    Re: Dividing the United States

    Quote Originally Posted by MMC View Post

    But the real bottomline is this.....30 Republican States, plus we have the House and the Money......which means no one needs to give in or kiss Obama's Azz. Not to mention there are 20 Democrat seats up in the Senate. Plus now there will be a few more that will be in some trouble over this gun legislation.
    Right. Which means stalemate. Which means both sides are doing their damndest to not give an inch EVEN AT THE EXPENSE OF THE PUBLIC.

    Which creates division.

    Which means there's more than one person, or one party responsible.

    So that includes everyone in power on the right just as much as it includes Obama.

    So it's not "Obama".

    It's Washington.

    They are ALL guilty.

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    Re: Dividing the United States

    Quote Originally Posted by Medusa View Post
    l have seen but not in USA

    so be gratefull to your presidents who are proud of being american
    You apparently are under the, imo, false assumption that America today is something actually worthy of being proud of.
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    Re: Dividing the United States

    Quote Originally Posted by DVSentinel View Post
    You apparently are under the, imo, false assumption that America today is something actually worthy of being proud of.

    at least those presidents dont betray their countries
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