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Thread: Beyonce and Jay-Z's Trip to Cuba

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    Re: Beyonce and Jay-Z's Trip to Cuba

    Quote Originally Posted by nota bene View Post
    Well, I am making a judgment call on the "culture" they wish to export. And I am delighted that Jay-Z bragged in a rap about his special connection to Obama. Maybe he'll learn something from the backlash.
    Money and politics, what can you do? Democrats get support from entertainers we might not all like. Republicans get support from groups like Bob Jones University where it was University policy for black students and white students not to date as recently as 2000 and only due to an onslaught of public pressure. I dont think its necessarily fair but I realize in order to win elections candidates need help from a wide range of groups and individuals often with whom they disagree on many issues and guilt by association thing happens but guess all sides and all groups are vulnerable.

    FYI: prior to 2000 a pit stop at BJU was standard for every GOP presidential candidate. Imposing the same unfair standard some people use with respect to Obama and some of his supporters, that would mean Reagan, H W Bush, Dole, Gingrich and McCain must probably think its immoral for people of different ethnicities to be romantically attached.
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    Re: Beyonce and Jay-Z's Trip to Cuba

    The vacation does nothing to promote changes on Cuba, but it does a little bit to remind Americans that the USA is supposed to be VERY different from Cuba: for example, American citizens are supposed to be free to go on vacation wherever the hell they please (assuming we are not at war with that country). Of course, it would be better if top-rank celebrity were not a requirement....

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    Re: Beyonce and Jay-Z's Trip to Cuba

    Quote Originally Posted by sawyerloggingon View Post
    First thing Americans will do is buy up all those 50s cars.
    Damn straight! I love those cars, some of the best styling of any automotive era.
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    Re: Beyonce and Jay-Z's Trip to Cuba

    Quote Originally Posted by sawyerloggingon View Post
    communism-fascism.
    Now thats an oxymoron if i ever saw one.


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    Re: Beyonce and Jay-Z's Trip to Cuba

    Quote Originally Posted by nota bene View Post
    Well, I am making a judgment call on the "culture" they wish to export. And I am delighted that Jay-Z bragged in a rap about his special connection to Obama. Maybe he'll learn something from the backlash.
    Learn what from the back lash? What backlash?

    Conservative white protestant Republicans were Jay-Z's public before and now they'll leave him in droves? Oh no!

    What? He's not going to sell a million albums as he has regularly done with his.... oh what... 10 last albums? Oh no!

    What? He's not going to be worth half a billion dollars tomorrow? Hahaha. Please.

    Quote Originally Posted by sawyerloggingon View Post
    My honest opinion is this trip helped the Cuban regime with a nice photo op and good press from these two worthless air heads.
    Worthless airheads? Worthless? I take it you're worth more than 500 million? And... airheads? "Airheads" don't go from ghetto broke to richer than you and your whole family. Actually, I'd say a homophobic, borderline racist is worth less than they are, but who am I to judge such things?
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    Re: Beyonce and Jay-Z's Trip to Cuba

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
    Now thats an oxymoron if i ever saw one.
    Think Stalin.

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    Re: Beyonce and Jay-Z's Trip to Cuba

    Just a nice holiday I imagine. I went to Cuba a few years ago and had a great time, Old Havana was breathtaking and the Rum and cigars hit the spot lol.
    ‘This is not peace, it is an armistice for 20 years.’ (Ferdinand Foch. After the Treaty of Versailles, 1919).

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    Re: Beyonce and Jay-Z's Trip to Cuba

    Quote Originally Posted by sawyerloggingon View Post
    My honest opinion is this trip helped the Cuban regime with a nice photo op and good press from these two worthless air heads.
    worthless or multi millionaires who also happen to be worldwide icons...
    ‘This is not peace, it is an armistice for 20 years.’ (Ferdinand Foch. After the Treaty of Versailles, 1919).

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    Re: Beyonce and Jay-Z's Trip to Cuba

    So are we trying to turn Cuba into another exclusive resort for the rich and friends of government?
    You know the time is right to take control, we gotta take offense against the status quo

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    Re: Beyonce and Jay-Z's Trip to Cuba

    Quote Originally Posted by nota bene View Post
    You're assuming that the "culture" that Jay-Z purveys is valuable and, uh, "cultural." The demi-monde of hip-hop isn't representative of who I am or what I stand for as an American.
    No where is it written that unless every citizen likes something it isn't 'American'.

    Let us not forget Beyonce was also there (superbowl girl) and like it or no, the two of them have millions of followers and from what was shown of their visit quite a few young Cubans appreciate the two American performers as well. The old folks have had to shot at this, both the rabid anti-castro folks and the Cuban leaders in their walkers. Now is the time for young folks to step forward, ignore the droolers and move both nation's forward.

    Except as a Cold War pawn Cuba has never been a threat to us and the one nation boycott has not changed Cuba's course one degree.

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