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Thread: Beyonce and Jay-Z's Trip to Cuba

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    Re: Beyonce and Jay-Z's Trip to Cuba

    Quote Originally Posted by Quag View Post
    CRAP! Cuba was a nice place to go without running into tons of americans, you guys are going ruin that
    First thing Americans will do is buy up all those 50s cars.

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    Re: Beyonce and Jay-Z's Trip to Cuba

    Quote Originally Posted by sawyerloggingon View Post
    First thing Americans will do is buy up all those 50s cars.
    I hadn't thought of that.

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    Re: Beyonce and Jay-Z's Trip to Cuba

    Quote Originally Posted by Smeagol View Post
    It was legal.

    In my humble opinion by virtue of the fact Beyonce and Jay-Z and American cultural icons who engaged in cultural outreach while in Cuba I think was it qualifies as a legitimate Treasury Department authorization. I think the more efforts can be made to get the people of other countries to embrace Americans, especially countries we are at odds with at some level, it helps foster good will toward us and helps create a "pro-America" global culture. This is IMHO good for America even if the results are not always seen immediately.
    You're assuming that the "culture" that Jay-Z purveys is valuable and, uh, "cultural." The demi-monde of hip-hop isn't representative of who I am or what I stand for as an American.

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    Re: Beyonce and Jay-Z's Trip to Cuba

    Quote Originally Posted by sawyerloggingon View Post
    First thing Americans will do is buy up all those 50s cars.
    And, they will "kidnap" all those Cuban mechanics who kept these old beasts running for 50 years..
    This, we have coming..
    Now, what to do with our rich old men...


    I may vote on this one..

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    Re: Beyonce and Jay-Z's Trip to Cuba

    Quote Originally Posted by nota bene View Post
    You're assuming that the "culture" that Jay-Z purveys is valuable and, uh, "cultural." The demi-monde of hip-hop isn't representative of who I am or what I stand for as an American.
    I may change my mind, open my mind, perhaps to this hop-hip "music", thanks to a conservative..

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    Re: Beyonce and Jay-Z's Trip to Cuba

    Quote Originally Posted by rocket88 View Post
    Embargos work so well! We put one on Cuba and....oh...Well, there's the one on Iran...oh they're still in charge too...North Korea.....

    Somebody help me out here.
    Many dictatorships without embargos still exist. More than enough to counter your examples and have a dozen left over. Each country must be treated differently, as context and priorities are always different in each case. Any recommendation of "universal policy" towards other nations is founded in nonsense.

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    Re: Beyonce and Jay-Z's Trip to Cuba

    Quote Originally Posted by earthworm View Post
    I may change my mind, open my mind, perhaps to this hop-hip "music", thanks to a conservative..
    Good! You do need to open your mind if you base your musical preferences on politics.

    As a musician, I find this even sadder than the people who "hear" music only as "background noise."

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    Re: Beyonce and Jay-Z's Trip to Cuba

    Quote Originally Posted by sawyerloggingon View Post
    No answer to the question or was that it?
    A damned good answer, IMO.
    But, I know nothing of their " music" .
    So much better - Bach, Beethoven, Brahms , the three Bs.

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    Re: Beyonce and Jay-Z's Trip to Cuba

    Quote Originally Posted by sawyerloggingon View Post
    First thing Americans will do is buy up all those 50s cars.
    There aint that many left, the Europeans have been importing cars to cuba for a while now
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    Re: Beyonce and Jay-Z's Trip to Cuba

    Quote Originally Posted by nota bene View Post
    Good! You do need to open your mind if you base your musical preferences on politics. Open my mind ?? meaning ?
    One thing I have detected in this age...a lack of sensitivity in conservatives....why ??


    As a musician, I find this even sadder than the people who "hear" music only as "background noise."
    IF ?
    Music, all kinds, good and bad, is apolitical.
    Generally true, IMO.
    Its my experience that todays "music" , far too much of it ,is the same as background noise.
    And I also know that this is not logical.
    Some music of today may be on a Bach level....and no-one senses this...now.

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