View Poll Results: How would it affect your vote if the republican party did not oppose SSM?

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  • I would not vote republican if they did not support a ban on SSM

    3 8.33%
  • I would be less likely to vote republican

    3 8.33%
  • I would be more likely to vote republican

    8 22.22%
  • It would have no effect on my vote

    15 41.67%
  • Other, don't know

    7 19.44%
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    For Republicans/Conservatives: Party Support and SSM

    Social conservatives warn Priebus they could abandon GOP - First Read

    Much of the conservatives' letter to Priebus stresses the issue of gay rights, and challenges the logic of the Growth and Opportunity Project's advice to broaden the party's appeal. Holding the line against same-sex marriage, the letter argues, would allow Republicans to make better inroads, for instance, into more traditionally-minded corners of the African American community.
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    "We respectfully warn GOP Leadership that an abandonment of its principles will necessarily result in the abandonment of our constituents to their support," concludes the letter, which was obtained by and independently verified by NBC News in advance of the meeting this week.
    In the week since this report came out, the RNC resolution committee passed a resolution reaffirming support for a constitutional amendment banning SSM. I should also mention for clarity that part of the letter dealt with abortion, but by reports the primary focus was on same sex marriage. I am not trying to misrepresent the letter, but focusing on the part that actually interests me.

    Now, my question, for those who vote republican all or much of the time: would you withdraw your support from the republican party, voting for another party or not at all, if the republican party did not oppose same sex marriage? Please only vote in the poll if you vote republican at least regularly, say 1/3 of the time or more. Not getting votes from those who rarely vote republican is not a big thing.
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    Re: For Repubicans/Conservatives: Party Support and SSM

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    Cute. When did you start listening to Mark Levin?

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    Re: For Repubicans/Conservatives: Party Support and SSM

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    Now, my question, for those who vote republican all or much of the time: would you withdraw your support from the republican party, voting for another party or not at all, if the republican party did not oppose same sex marriage?
    No. I would switch churches, because I think that adherence to Scripture vice public pressure is pretty important (for the record, this puts me way outside the American mainstream on the subject of divorce, which Jesus was pretty clear on, and which churches generally today ignore). But it is not a more important political issue than (for example) infanticide or the need to avoid a european style welfare state collapse. Democrats are (generally) on the wrong side of both of those issues, and I cannot see myself being willing to give them a freer hand in them.

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    Re: For Repubicans/Conservatives: Party Support and SSM

    There are too many other things they want to do that I just can't stomach. It wouldn't change my vote.

    I'm always open to voting for an *individual* of any party. But if we're just talking about the most generic party line Republican? Nope.

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    Re: For Republicans/Conservatives: Party Support and SSM

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    Social conservatives warn Priebus they could abandon GOP - First Read



    In the week since this report came out, the RNC resolution committee passed a resolution reaffirming support for a constitutional amendment banning SSM. I should also mention for clarity that part of the letter dealt with abortion, but by reports the primary focus was on same sex marriage. I am not trying to misrepresent the letter, but focusing on the part that actually interests me.

    Now, my question, for those who vote republican all or much of the time: would you withdraw your support from the republican party, voting for another party or not at all, if the republican party did not oppose same sex marriage? Please only vote in the poll if you vote republican at least regularly, say 1/3 of the time or more. Not getting votes from those who rarely vote republican is not a big thing.

    Who are these social conservatives going to vote for if not the GOP? It's an empty threat.

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    Re: For Republicans/Conservatives: Party Support and SSM

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    those who vote republican all or much of the time... Please only vote in the poll if you vote republican at least regularly, say 1/3 of the time or more. Not getting votes from those who rarely vote republican is not a big thing.
    I never vote for Democrats (there was one exception, on a municipal level). So I guess I qualify, even though I vote for third-party candidates with zero chances or do write-ins half of the time.

    Yes, of course, it would make me more likely to vote Republican. It is only one issue, but it goes to the core of Republican identity: are they a party of individualism and freedom of choice, or another statist party offering a slightly different pattern of control and oppression?

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    Re: For Republicans/Conservatives: Party Support and SSM

    Quote Originally Posted by ChezC3 View Post
    Who are these social conservatives going to vote for if not the GOP? It's an empty threat.
    Keep your fingers crossed. Social conservatives had cooperated with the worst elements of the Left in the past - and gave us such wonders of Progressivism as the Prohibition, the immigration shutdown and the Monkey Trial. They could unite once again.

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    Re: For Republicans/Conservatives: Party Support and SSM

    Quote Originally Posted by Cyrylek View Post
    Keep your fingers crossed. Social conservatives had cooperated with the worst elements of the Left in the past - and gave us such wonders of Progressivism as the Prohibition, the immigration shutdown and the Monkey Trial. They could unite once again.
    Prohibition was a progressive issue, but neither the Scopes Trial nor anti-immigration were. (Latin American exclusion was the province of both industrial unionists in the West and that great libertarian Calvin Coolidge.)

    As for the thread in question, I almost never vote for Republicans, but I could vote for a pro-choice, pro-SSM Republican as easily as I vote for a pro-choice, pro-SSM Democrat.
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    Re: For Republicans/Conservatives: Party Support and SSM

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    Social conservatives warn Priebus they could abandon GOP - First Read



    In the week since this report came out, the RNC resolution committee passed a resolution reaffirming support for a constitutional amendment banning SSM. I should also mention for clarity that part of the letter dealt with abortion, but by reports the primary focus was on same sex marriage. I am not trying to misrepresent the letter, but focusing on the part that actually interests me.

    Now, my question, for those who vote republican all or much of the time: would you withdraw your support from the republican party, voting for another party or not at all, if the republican party did not oppose same sex marriage? Please only vote in the poll if you vote republican at least regularly, say 1/3 of the time or more. Not getting votes from those who rarely vote republican is not a big thing.
    The morons lost me awhile ago by spending like drunkin sailors. Screw em. I only vote for the Tea party variety anymore. I am Taxed Enough Already. When the Republicans at large start talking about the US CAFR report and how only 1/3 of the revenue the US collects is via taxation then they may woo me back till then the a mainstream variety are in the doghouse. Personally I could care less about social issues right now. Theres plenty of ammunition just with the budget process to not even bother with the social issues.
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    Re: For Republicans/Conservatives: Party Support and SSM

    Quote Originally Posted by Cyrylek View Post
    Keep your fingers crossed. Social conservatives had cooperated with the worst elements of the Left in the past - and gave us such wonders of Progressivism as the Prohibition, the immigration shutdown and the Monkey Trial. They could unite once again.
    I really can't see that being the case this go round. Turn on a SSM GOPer and run to the open arms of the LGBT abortionists?

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