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What would you expect a woman to do?

What would you expect a woman to do in this situation?

  • Get a description, stay calm, dont make sudden movements, call the cops later..

    Votes: 1 4.3%
  • Throw herself at the gunman and fight for her loved ones, because not doing so would be cowardice.

    Votes: 3 13.0%
  • Other, explain.

    Votes: 19 82.6%

  • Total voters
    23
You sleep with a .44 magnum in bed with you? I sleep with an incredibly cute, blue-eyed little blonde. I wouldn't trade with you. :lol:

Personal preference and circumstances I guess. I really don't find blue eyed blonds very attractive on average. Much prefer Asian, Amerasian (Eurasian) or athletic/slim women with dark brown hair. Unfortunately, the number of women who are both physically and mentally attractive and compatible to me are very, very rare. An really nice, feminine, moral woman about 6' tall and an IQ over 150, highly developed logical center, B-Cup (AA, A or C still acceptable) might be ideal, but, yeah, where in the world do they really exist.
 
Ooh, another MRA! How exciting! You're not as flamboyant as some of our others though. Pity.

I'm not going to sit here and seriously deconstruct this because it's never worth the effort, but I would just like to point out that this so-called misandry is actually something patriarchy put in place. Little women can't take care of themselves, you know. And men aren't real men when they express their emotions. Both concepts of patriarchy.

So if you'd like to dismantle that, you should be playing nice with feminism, not against it.

I agree with much of the equal rights movement, but not so much with feminism. I am completely on board with equal rights, but it has to be applied equally. If men are being told to give up their traditional role then women should also be moving in that direction as well. You simply cant pick and choose, which seems to be happening in our society, and men simply are silent on it. Any men who do speak up are belittled not only by the females, but their male enablers. Males that think they need to defend the female. Which is funny because these same females who sick their male friends on men that do speak up will argue with you until you are blue in the face that they don't need a man to protect her, while at the same time, sicking all her male friends on you when the argument does not go her way.

I don't see women lobbying for the right to sign up for the draft.

I don't see women lobbying for the right to work in coal mines

I don't see women lobbying for the right to be 50% of the soldiers dieing on the front lines

Equal rights!! Which also means equal responsibility. If you live in this country and enjoy all the perks that comes with being an american citizen, you should at least share the expectation to go off and fight for it. We don't see this though, women do not see it as a duty to fight in war. You will never see women lining up outside a recruiters office to sign up for infantry duty in the Army.

You also won't see women lining up to build our countries infrastructure (roads, bridges, ect ect).

You dont see women lining up to provide essencial services such as car mechanics, or machine operators, ship yard builders / welders.

These are all male dominated jobs that women have left for men to do. I have never seen a picket line outside of a shipyard protesting that women are not allowed to be ship welders...

But you see plenty of women protesting that they are discriminated against as Doctors, Lawyers, Corporate leaders... All the cush high paying jobs....

If men simply went on strike one day because they were fed up with they way they are being treated....Who would...

Fix the highways
Fix the electrical when a storm hits
Put out fires
Fight wars
Fix your car / truck
Mine for materials that are used to build your computer, TV, Cell phone....
Police the streets

In all these fields.. men are overwhelmingly dominant. These fields are paramount to our survival and success as a country. They are not just services, they are a necessity. And like I mentioned above, men have and continually are paying the price and making the sacrifices required to deserve to live and enjoy the society we have built. Where are you women? Women are failing to represent themselves in my mind, as really wanting equality.

Lets say for example.. if all these jobs were only employed by black people, and they made up 90% of the workplace deaths and sat at the bottom of the income scale, there would be MASSIVE protests. Men are silent slaves in a society that does not appreciate them. And if they start complaining about it, they are a bunch of wusses that have small penises.
 
feminism doesnt mean the rejection of physical and psychological differences between women and men .

if you are physically stronger ,you dont violate any feminist rule by protecting your family.......

equality exists only in the legal arena

in fact we complement each other . ..........
 
What is so tragic is that variations of the OP senario do happen - and more often and in more ways than anyone can accept does happen and some day could happen to them.

A family, each begging for each other, for themselves, for their children - desperate terror and fear against worsening horrific and torturous violence and tormenting - with nothing any of them can do or say to stop it - and they each coming to realize it only a matter of how much more each suffers before finally killed. Fathers who have had to watch their wife and children raped, set on fire, murdered, mothers having to watch this, children having to watch it.

There are men who enjoy such things as their highest pleasure. Not just causing horror and pain to others, but also to enjoy forcing loved ones to watch it happen. Just as there are men who get a rush out of having another man's wife in an affair more than having an identical single woman as a thing against the husband and the joys of messing up their marriage - on the furthest end there also are men that will get great pleasure out of raping, torturing and killing a man's wife and children in front of him - for the added pleasure of that man suffering from it. Sometimes, only the man survives somehow and then he lives with that the rest of his life.

To see and hear such things even just one time will change a person forever. I will not, cannot, watch movies or TV with slice-and-dice plots and scenes - because I know while that is just fiction, that something very akin to that same thing actually is happening somewhere while I'm watching that movie or show. And it eats my brain and sickens me. Because there is NOTHING I or anyone can do to stop it. Children. Men. Women. Begging it to stop, for someone, for God, anyone or anything to stop and undo this - and there is nothing and no one to do so.

No one can really grasp that reality - not really - but it is a reality that does happen - and there is nothing that fully exempts you and yours from that potential either.
 
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If someone broke into her house and held her at gunpoint tell her he/she is going to rape her husband or her kids?


Well, apparently if she was like you, she'd politely stand aside and let him do what he wishes to her sobbing children.


Any women I'd associate with, let alone marry, I'd expect to show a little more character and backbone. A woman who won't fight for her kids is as sorry a sack of **** as a man who won't fight for his family.
 
What is so tragic is that variations of the OP senario do happen - and more than anyone can accept does happen and some day could happen to them.

A family, each begging for each other, for themselves, for their children - desperate terror and fear against worsening horrific and torturous violence and tormenting - with nothing any of them can do or say to stop it - and they each coming to realize it only a matter of how much more each suffers before finally killed. Fathers who have had to watch their wife and children raped, set on fire, murdered, mothers having to watch this, children having to watch it.

To see and hear such even just one time will change a person forever. I will not, cannot, watch movies or TV with slice-and-dice plots and scenes - because I know while that is just fiction, that something very akin to that same thing actually is happening somewhere while I'm watching that movie or show. And it eats my brain and sickens me. Because there is NOTHING I or anyone can do to stop it. Children. Men. Women. Begging it to stop, for someone, for God, anyone or anything to stop and undo this - and there is nothing and no one to do so.

No one can really grasp that reality - not really - but it is a reality that does happen - and there is nothing that fully exempts you and yours from that potential either.



Exactly. Like you I learned, the hard way, that this **** really happens and happens more often than most people want to believe.

That's why I made up my mind a long time ago... nobody is tying me up or taking my kids off with them. They can have my wallet, my car keys, I don't care... but the moment they try to leave with the kids or start tying people up, someone is going to die. If it is me I'll try to take them with me.
 
Or maybe they do, and they just don't realize it. :lol:

I am a man. Your right to a point. I am married. I don't get it but I do realize it.....
 
Personal preference and circumstances I guess. I really don't find blue eyed blonds very attractive on average. Much prefer Asian, Amerasian (Eurasian) or athletic/slim women with dark brown hair. Unfortunately, the number of women who are both physically and mentally attractive and compatible to me are very, very rare. An really nice, feminine, moral woman about 6' tall and an IQ over 150, highly developed logical center, B-Cup (AA, A or C still acceptable) might be ideal, but, yeah, where in the world do they really exist.

To each his own. ;)
 
I would expect her to do the same thing I would do, use our legally owned gun to kill the threatening rapist/murderer without hesitation.
 
Well, apparently if she was like you, she'd politely stand aside and let him do what he wishes to her sobbing children.


Any women I'd associate with, let alone marry, I'd expect to show a little more character and backbone. A woman who won't fight for her kids is as sorry a sack of **** as a man who won't fight for his family.

I agree completely! But society feels that men should bear this burden, not women.
 
The reality is that once an intruder has complete control of your very young children? He has control of you. If the intruder intends to do you or your children harm? If he sees you and knows you know he has your children? IMO, you're screwed. Rather like the Kobayashi Maru.

So very true. Cannot remember the asshats up in Washington or Oregon that kidnapped a family that did not fight back....

Took them to their "bunker in the woods. Tortured and killed dad in front of wife and kids. Killed kids in front of mother. Raped, tortured, killed mother.

They taped the whole thing as a souvenir.

Maybe if mom and dad had been more compliant, these *not a word strong enough* would have just slapped everyone around a bit...
 
I agree completely! But society feels that men should bear this burden, not women.

So if the mother/woman is the only one around she should do nothing? In the scenario there was no mention of a man being present aside from him being raped and none of the possible answers had to do with letting the man take care of things. Regardless, I think as loved ones each has a responsibility to protect the other.
 
feminism doesnt mean the rejection of physical and psychological differences between women and men .

if you are physically stronger ,you dont violate any feminist rule by protecting your family.......

equality exists only in the legal arena

in fact we complement each other . ..........

So your quite fine with men bearing the brunt of the risk to keep society going?

If it were black people bearing the brunt of the risk to keep our society health, would that not be racist?
 
So your quite fine with men bearing the brunt of the risk to keep society going?

If it were black people bearing the brunt of the risk to keep our society health, would that not be racist?

l believe you would send your wife to fight against the enemy in case of a war.......

you would only watch...
 
So if the mother/woman is the only one around she should do nothing? In the scenario there was no mention of a man being present aside from him being raped and none of the possible answers had to do with letting the man take care of things. Regardless, I think as loved ones each has a responsibility to protect the other.
No... I think if society calls a man who does not stand between a bullet and his wife a coward and basically castrates him in the public media.. Women should be held to that same standard even if the person needing help is a man.
 
l believe you would send your wife to fight against the enemy in case of a war.......

If my wife wanted to join the army and fight for our country, I would gladly support her and I would be proud of her!
 
If my wife wanted to join the army and fight for our country, I would gladly support her and I would be proud of her!

thats not the point here

l would save my country too

but you wouldnt do anything , your wife would have to do it ..........
 
Exactly. Like you I learned, the hard way, that this **** really happens and happens more often than most people want to believe.

That's why I made up my mind a long time ago... nobody is tying me up or taking my kids off with them. They can have my wallet, my car keys, I don't care... but the moment they try to leave with the kids or start tying people up, someone is going to die. If it is me I'll try to take them with me.

I qualified my answer with everything changes if in the OP senario I am to be tied up. The same does apply to being taken off.

MANY times we ground into our teenage daughter to never, ever, ever go - be stabbed, be shot then and there rather than be taken off. If he'll stab or shot you then, he'll do it when you are off in nowhere too - and do terrible things happen first - and then no one to possible save you or get you to the hospital. If some man car jacks her with her still in it, floor it and run straight into a heavy pole, wall or parked car. DO NOT go off with an attacker - ever. No exceptions - ever.

The reality? Sometimes there is NO winning option. And sometimes the only option is bizarre in terms of at least hoping to minimize or attract others. For example, in such a senario it make be more "life saving" to throw yourself thru a window - shot and killed as you go out it - to maybe gain attention of others in the neighborhood or area.

Unfortunately, people do not have mental telepathy and tend to not instinctly take a collection action under the premise that at least then some of us live. School shootings tend to be that way, if not all mass shootings. Instances of 1 man with a knife raping and then killing all 5 women, when probably at least 2 or 3 would have lived if they all rushed him. In the husband/wife senario of the OP, if both rushed him there would be a good chance 1 or both would live - maybe shot up - and if not virtually no chance that either would live.

ALL cops HAVE to rely that people tend NOT to join forces in such a situation. Otherwise 1 cop could never actually control 5 people. But they will rarely act as a collective. Unfortunately, neither do victims.

Finally, many, many people have never experienced full, limited violent confrontations (fights or assault) in which there are NO rules and the singular fixation is on hurting the other person. Most people do not grasp how truly brutal, sadistic and violent some men will be. You would rather die quickly than be captured alive by some of such men - because you're going to die anyway as a certainty. If you got a 1 in a million chance, take it. Take it even if you have no chance at all.

There are few situations where a person isn't actually surrounded by potential weapons - and it never crosses victim's mind because in a real violence situation they freeze up and reacte to actions than to be pro-active aggressively.
 
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thats not the point here

l would save my country too

but you wouldnt do anything , your wife would have to do it ..........

Ouch, that must have hurt. I'll protect you M...
 
It's easy to huff and puff about what you would do, but when it comes down to it, you don't know until it's happening.

Fear for the safety of loved ones, truly loved ones, will drive any person male or female, to defend even to the point of disregard for their own safety.
Rational, logical thinking doesn't neccessarily come into play, it is an instinct ingrained into the fiber of our beings.

It has become dulled through the years for many people, relying on others to provide the protection, or disconnecting from their purpose of protecting the family unit. Letting it happen to others as long as it's not happening to them.

How sad our society has become when we rely on others to do what we ourselves should be doing.

Actually, it is not instinctive in Capster. This poll came about because of Cap getting raked over the coals for stating he would run away if confronted by an assailant and leave his wife/girlfriend to fend for herself. He went on to state that if she does not run, well...those are the breaks.
He is trying to find someone to tell him he is justified in running away and leaving his girlfriend/future wife to her fate.
 
I agree completely! But society feels that men should bear this burden, not women.




Yeah well "agree completely" isn't what you said in a couple of other threads. You made it very clear you weren't interested in risking your life for anyone else, wife child mother brother... apparently if the perp has a gun, you're Vichy French.
 
No... I think if society calls a man who does not stand between a bullet and his wife a coward and basically castrates him in the public media.. Women should be held to that same standard even if the person needing help is a man.

There is a middle ground in which I mostly agree with you, but not entirely. It would depend upon abilities, situation and relationships.
 
thats not the point here

l would save my country too

but you wouldnt do anything , your wife would have to do it ..........

Where have I ever said that? Go back and read my posts. I think that if society is going to put that expectation on men, it should also be placed on women as well.
 
Yeah well "agree completely" isn't what you said in a couple of other threads. You made it very clear you weren't interested in risking your life for anyone else, wife child mother brother... apparently if the perp has a gun, you're Vichy French.

I don't anyone should risk their life in a helpless situation, man or woman.
 
So very true. Cannot remember the asshats up in Washington or Oregon that kidnapped a family that did not fight back....

Took them to their "bunker in the woods. Tortured and killed dad in front of wife and kids. Killed kids in front of mother. Raped, tortured, killed mother.

They taped the whole thing as a souvenir.

Maybe if mom and dad had been more compliant, these *not a word strong enough* would have just slapped everyone around a bit...

What a horrible story. Horrible. I hope they're rotting in hell.
 
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