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  • l would try everything to protect her

    32 62.75%
  • l would only care about my own life

    1 1.96%
  • l would try to protect her without risking my life

    5 9.80%
  • l wouldnt do anything but then l would kill him

    3 5.88%
  • it depends on the situation ,l cant know what to do without experiencing

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Thread: for men - What would you do ?

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    Re: for men - What would you do ?

    Quote Originally Posted by Harshaw View Post
    But if your first thought is your own safety, and not for stopping terrible harm from coming to your wife, then something's straight up wrong with you.
    I agree with that.

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    Re: for men - What would you do ?

    Quote Originally Posted by joko104 View Post
    Because the best future you can give your wife and children is that 30 years for now, they and maybe some grandchildren would be get to stand at your gravestone on the anniversary of your murder. She can explain who the grandfather she never met was. And, hopefully, there is a man standing with her that she loves as much as she did you so long, long ago - and hopefully that man loves her and loves your children as much as you did long long ago. Hopefully, it didn't take her too long to find a complete replacement for you - if that even theoretically possible.

    My wife likes macho men far more than most women probably do and she definitedly got herself a real macho "knuckle-dragging neanderthal" too. But not THAT much of one to "throw his life away" in a pointless and suicidal ego rage likely to assure you are both murdered. After killing you he has no choice but to kill you too. Regardless of that, I gather you have not been around much actually real assaultive violence.

    Are you REALLY that worthless to your wife and children? Is your ego that totally and suicidally out of control? "Earth to Major Tom..."
    I say it again . . . if your first instinct, when your wife is about to raped, is about yourself, then there's something wrong with you.
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    Re: for men - What would you do ?

    Quote Originally Posted by Medusa View Post
    as a woman , if l really believe he deserves my devotion , l would do everything to protect him.
    Does this mean you will offer yourself to the rapist to save your husband's life?

    P.S. Sorry, no time to go through all the discussion, so I may repeat somebody.

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    Re: for men - What would you do ?

    Quote Originally Posted by Harshaw View Post
    I say it again . . . if your first instinct, when your wife is about to raped, is about yourself, then there's something wrong with you.
    The question isn't "what would be your first instinct." The question is "what would you do?" - and a person can try to guess that they'd do (which you did) - or a person could figure what should I do - and entirely different question. I faced lots and lots and lots violence in my life - and learned the only rational thought process is "what should I do?" - not "what do I want to do?" While it isn't THE top of the list, avoiding death is pretty high up there. Avoiding anyone's death - and I am on that list. My children and wife's life even higher up.

    And I'll say again that if that really was your "instinct," it is a highly defective one that isn't about her at all, but only your ego and is entirely against her self interests. Its just you suiciding because you couldn't deal being with a wife who had been raped. It would be just too ego unbearable to you. And its as tactically stupid as it gets.

    Where my answer would change if he then wanted to tie me up. I am certain my wife and I would immediately attack on the slimmest of chances that one of us might get to him while still alive and function - for which if I did he's dead and if she did there's a fair chance he would be too. BUT, if not, then it best for both of us to die right then - because our deaths are certain once I was tied up, with it only a question of how much her and I suffer until the inevitable death comes.

    Although most people don't grasp the distinction, sometimes there is a decisive difference between yielding and being captured.

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    Re: for men - What would you do ?

    Quote Originally Posted by Canell View Post
    Does this mean you will offer yourself to the rapist to save your husband's life?

    P.S. Sorry, no time to go through all the discussion, so I may repeat somebody.
    The biggest issue is that no self respecting man IMO would ask that of her, I know I'd rather die than have the woman I love raped.
    Neither side in an argument can find the truth when both make an absolute claim on it.

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    Re: for men - What would you do ?

    Quote Originally Posted by joko104 View Post
    The question isn't "what would be your first instinct." The question is "what would you do?" - and a person can try to guess that they'd do (which you did) - or a person could figure what should I do - and entirely different question. I faced lots and lots and lots violence in my life - and learned the only rational thought process is "what should I do?" - not "what do I want to do?" While it isn't THE top of the list, avoiding death is pretty high up there. Avoiding anyone's death - and I am on that list. My children and wife's life even higher up.
    Agree here, the first question should be "what should I do"
    And I'll say again that if that really was your "instinct," it is a highly defective one that isn't about her at all, but only your ego and is entirely against her self interests. Its just you suiciding because you couldn't deal being with a wife who had been raped. It would be just too ego unbearable to you. And its as tactically stupid as it gets.
    50/50 here, if the effort is based on pride then it's a waste of life. If that person sacrifices their life for the wife to get away because it would kill them internally for her to suffer(my stance, I take my loved ones very seriously, they are above me in my mind) then that desire to keep them safe is not a waste.

    Where my answer would change if he then wanted to tie me up. I am certain my wife and I would immediately attack on the slimmest of chances that one of us might get to him while still alive and function - for which if I did he's dead and if she did there's a fair chance he would be too. BUT, if not, then it best for both of us to die right then - because our deaths are certain once I was tied up, with it only a question of how much her and I suffer until the inevitable death comes.
    Once you lose control of the situation completely, absolutely.

    Although most people don't grasp the distinction, sometimes there is a decisive difference between yielding and being captured.[/QUOTE]
    Neither side in an argument can find the truth when both make an absolute claim on it.

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    Re: for men - What would you do ?

    Quote Originally Posted by LaMidRighter View Post
    The biggest issue is that no self respecting man IMO would ask that of her, I know I'd rather die than have the woman I love raped.
    OK, but if your woman sacrifices her to save your ass, would you accept it? If she would bag you to stay away and stay alive?

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    Re: for men - What would you do ?

    Quote Originally Posted by Canell View Post
    OK, but if your woman sacrifices her to save your ass, would you accept it? If she would bag you to stay away and stay alive?
    Tough question, honestly I think the protection instinct would kick in and I would tell her to just run fast and get away.
    Neither side in an argument can find the truth when both make an absolute claim on it.

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    Re: for men - What would you do ?

    Quote Originally Posted by LaMidRighter View Post
    Tough question, honestly I think the protection instinct would kick in and I would tell her to just run fast and get away.
    That's fine, but try overwhelm a gun with bare hands. There is chance though if you get shot or killed, the shooter would be shocked and his desire for raping would evaporate, he runs and you will save your woman. But it may not.

    Yeah, it's a very tough situation.

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    Re: for men - What would you do ?

    Quote Originally Posted by Canell View Post
    Does this mean you will offer yourself to the rapist to save your husband's life?
    I think most wives would do that to save their husbands' lives. Just as I think most husbands wouldn't want them to. Put two people who love each other in such an impossible situation and that is the kind of disagreement that will arise. That is what a real man and a real woman do, they put their loved ones first.

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