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  • l would try everything to protect her

    32 62.75%
  • l would only care about my own life

    1 1.96%
  • l would try to protect her without risking my life

    5 9.80%
  • l wouldnt do anything but then l would kill him

    3 5.88%
  • it depends on the situation ,l cant know what to do without experiencing

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    Re: for men - What would you do ?

    Quote Originally Posted by Capster78 View Post
    Hurts when it comes the other direction huh? Yet no one gets offended when men are called dicks, pigs, belittled in public. But on noooo.. Call a woman a vagina and the gloves are off.

    You want to see equality in the US.. here you go....



    Tell me most American women do not personify the view I lay out in my posts after watching this...


    Deflection.

    Not surprising, either. If I'd humiliated, dishonored and discredited myself as badly in this thread as you have, I'd try to change the subject too.

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    Re: for men - What would you do ?

    Quote Originally Posted by Goshin View Post
    Deflection.

    Not surprising, either. If I'd humiliated, dishonored and discredited myself as badly in this thread as you have, I'd try to change the subject too.
    So if a woman were to stand up for her rights.. she would be humiliating, dishonoring and discrediting herself?
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    Re: for men - What would you do ?

    Quote Originally Posted by Capster78 View Post
    So if a woman were to stand up for her rights.. she would be humiliating, dishonoring and discrediting herself?


    More deflection, but this one didn't even make sense. You really ought to quit digging that hole even deeper.

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    Re: for men - What would you do ?

    Quote Originally Posted by Goshin View Post
    More deflection, but this one didn't even make sense. You really ought to quit digging that hole even deeper.
    Well, I have to disagree. Sorry, I am not going to be enslaved into a society where a womans life is worth more than a mans. I would think exactly the same way if someone were to tell me a woman should be expected to step in and get herself killed protecting a man. A Womans life is just as valuable as a Mans life.
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    Re: for men - What would you do ?

    To stay within actual reality - a bizarre thing to do on a forum I suppose - I'm going to stick with not being a "knuckle-dragging neaderthal."

    I think what I'd do is say something like this. "You don't have to shoot me. Hell, I'll pay you to have sex with her. She'd love it and I got no problem with it. Never had one with any other guy."
    And I am comfident my wife would immediately pick up on it, with "oh you don't have to pay. Why don't both of you jump it and we'll make a game of it."

    Now, somewhere in the middle my wife and I probably would have silently and quickly mouthed "I love you," certain that it all but impossible to avoid that in the next few moments we are both going to be dead.

    And I not only can say for myself, but also she would agree, the singular goal would be anyway to avoid us both being murdered. The goal is simple. It's not to look good and noble, to protect virtues and values. The goal for both of us would be a united try to stay alive.

    What am I missing that other people are seeing why mine isn't the obvious and only answer?

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    Re: for men - What would you do ?

    ^ BTW, we have children. I am absolutely certain that would be what they would absolutely prefer too.

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    Re: for men - What would you do ?

    Apparently, there are two types of people.

    One, in that situation, whose first thought would be "it's not worth throwing my life away." And two, whose first thought would be "that animal is not going to violate my wife."

    I cannot even begin to imagine what it's like inside a head which would entertain the first one.
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    Re: for men - What would you do ?

    Quote Originally Posted by Harshaw View Post
    Apparently, there are two types of people.

    One, in that situation, whose first thought would be "it's not worth throwing my life away." And two, whose first thought would be "that animal is not going to violate my wife."

    I cannot even begin to imagine what it's like inside a head which would entertain the first one.
    Well, Capster aside, I don't think it is necessarily wrong to not jump the guy if you think there is a high likelihood of getting your wife killed in the process. That isn’t selfish, that is trying to save your wife’s life. Sure, you may have to live with the guilt but is being guilt free worth your wife’s life?

    And as Joko mentioned, some of us have children. My wife and I have no problems saying that we are the second most important people in each others’ lives. Our children come first. Taking an action that is likely to leave our children orphans would be unacceptable.

    There are many variables.

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    Re: for men - What would you do ?

    Quote Originally Posted by Sarcogito View Post
    Well, Capster aside, I don't think it is necessarily wrong to not jump the guy if you think there is a high likelihood of getting your wife killed in the process. That isn’t selfish, that is trying to save your wife’s life. Sure, you may have to live with the guilt but is being guilt free worth your wife’s life?

    And as Joko mentioned, some of us have children. My wife and I have no problems saying that we are the second most important people in each others’ lives. Our children come first. Taking an action that is likely to leave our children orphans would be unacceptable.

    There are many variables.
    I didn't say you had to do any specific thing, or be stupid about it. But if your first thought is your own safety, and not for stopping terrible harm from coming to your wife, then something's straight up wrong with you.
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    Re: for men - What would you do ?

    Quote Originally Posted by Harshaw View Post
    Apparently, there are two types of people.

    One, in that situation, whose first thought would be "it's not worth throwing my life away." And two, whose first thought would be "that animal is not going to violate my wife."

    I cannot even begin to imagine what it's like inside a head which would entertain the first one.
    Because the best future you can give your wife and children is that 30 years for now, they and maybe some grandchildren would be get to stand at your gravestone on the anniversary of your murder. She can explain who the grandfather they never met and never will was. "He was a good man. It's sorry none of you got to really know your father and grandfather."

    And, hopefully, she aged well and it wasn't too hard on her at first on her own.
    Hopefully, there is a man standing with her that she loves as much as she did you so long, long ago.
    Hpefully that man standing with her - if there is one - loves her as much as you did - and hopefully loves your children every bit as much as you did long long ago.
    Hopefully, it didn't take her too long to find a complete replacement for you - if that even theoretically possible.
    And mostly, hopefully that is what you wanted for her when you ended your life 3 decades prior.

    My wife likes macho men far more than most women probably do and she definitedly got herself a real macho "knuckle-dragging neanderthal" too. But not THAT much of one to "throw my life away" in a pointless and suicidal ego rage likely to assure you are both murdered. After killing you he has no choice but to kill you too. Regardless of that, I gather you have not been around much actually real assaultive violence.

    Are you REALLY that worthless to your wife and children? Is your ego that totally and suicidally out of control? "Earth to Major Tom...

    I don't mean to insult, I really don't, and I suppose a man is supposed to say what you did. But it really wouldn't be an act of love, certainly not in her best interests, and very unlikely what she would want you to do.
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