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  • l would only care about my own life

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  • l would try to protect her without risking my life

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  • l wouldnt do anything but then l would kill him

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    Re: for men - What would you do ?

    Quote Originally Posted by Capster78 View Post
    So when a man acts like a man in the workplace and takes that role of power and responsibility.... he is a chauvinistic neanderthal oppressing women...

    But when he takes that same role of power and responsibility in a situation as mentioned in this thread... he is a.... a man just doing what he should be doing???

    You women got to get your stuff strait. Either you want us to act like men or you don't. You can't pick and choose when you want to be treated like an equal, and when you want to be treated like a woman.

    Because I am willing to put my paycheck on if we were to reverse the rolls. A woman would not be expected to take a bullet for a man in the same situation.
    A man in the workplace is an equal and he doesn't assume the role of power and responsibility by holding women down, treating them as less than a man and denigrating them. That is chauvinism and oppressing women. Please get it straight.

    A real man, doesn't act like this, treating women as only a vagina. In a relationship, they are equals as well, committed to each others' well being and safety, so hand over your paycheck, because I don't plan to be standing by wringing my hands, "assault him, just don't shoot me". I don't think I could just stand there and watch anyone I care about get hurt to save myself regardless of the fact I'm a woman.

    EDIT: I don't think I could stand by and watch anyone being harmed and not doing something to stop it.
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    Re: for men - What would you do ?

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    a good Turkish handgun can make things real equal

    here is one of your country's better efforts

    its a turkish copy of the famed CZ 75. its well made. I don't own one because I have five CZs and the Armalite magazines don't work in the CZs so there is no reason to buy one

    but you might-


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    Re: for men - What would you do ?

    Quote Originally Posted by Goshin View Post
    It's a lot more than just a job. The "princely salary" hardly covers running straight into probable gunfire for the sake of a woman you'd never seen 5 seconds before... which I've done. It's a calling, a willingness to put yourself in harm's way to protect the innocent.
    So your disposable? And a woman's life is worth more than yours? If your willing to just come out and say yes, then my point has been made. Men are slowly becoming 2nd class citizens directly because of this thinking. There was a reason men risked their lives back in the early parts of our humanity. Doing so meant you got women, power, and influence amoungst your peers. Now, you are expected to be killed for a woman for nothing at all. Does this not make you disposable and a slave?

    But it is even more than that... it wasn't too long ago that it was considered a duty every man should fulfill towards his loved ones, especially those less able to defend themselves.
    Why? Again, a slave to a female. A bullet catcher, a protector, a dog on a leash in a leaky dog house..

    You'd seriously let a man rape your little daughter rather than risk a bullet to try to save her? Or your mother?
    I would not let them, but I would have very little choice if they had a gun pointed at me. I would hope my loved one care enough about me to understand that there is nothing I could do but be killed.


    I can't even talk to you about this anymore. I am too disgusted. I don't want to hear anything you have to say on the topics of crime, self-protection, or anything of the kind anymore, you have lost all credibility with this utterly self-centered misogynistic crap.
    Fine with me, continue being a slave.. I am sure she will fill your water bowl up and throw you a bone ever once in awhile in order to protect the house and be her bullet catcher. And once your dead.. all her friends will tell her she cant live in the past and must move on. Then she can marry the next sucker that will catch bullets for her.



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    Re: for men - What would you do ?

    I would be armed, the second he threatened to rape my wife and use deadly force against me I would kill him, no hesitation.

    If someone is going to rape my wife and is threatening to kill me why should I trust him in regards to his word that he is going to rape her and leave us both alive? I wouldn't take his word for it and I would assume that his intent is to rape and kill and act accordingly.
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    Re: for men - What would you do ?

    Quote Originally Posted by Capster78 View Post
    Because that is exactly how he is treating her if he believes her life is more valuable than his. Then what makes a woman's life more valuable then, that we would expect a man to jump in an get himself killed trying to save a woman from rape?


    And here is that entitlement mentality again... Expecting a man to get himself killed to protect her.. Because if he does not, he is handing his wife over to the rapist. Perfect example of a woman who is completely blind to her own hypocrisy as most women are in the states. I assume you would not think a woman was handing over her husband or her kids to a rapist if the rapist was holding her at gunpoint while raping them. Does this only work one way? Are you going to just come out and admit it or am i going to have to argue your hypocrisy out of you?



    Do you expect a woman to attack a gunmen raping her husband or her children. And would you call a woman who does not, a coward?





    If you honestly hold this view equally between the sexes, then that's wonderful. But I am willing to bet my paycheck that the vast majority of the American public / American Women would not agree with you. If the majority of women still think men should pay for a date, you think they think women should step in and take a bullet to save her husband?
    I don't want your ****ing paycheck. I don't care if your world view is so narcissistic that you cannot think of a single human being on the planet you would be willing to risk death for. I don't care that your view of women is so openly contemptuous that you refer to them as "vaginas", and rail about the "entitlement mentality" of women who should be willing to be tortured and brutalized because you are the one with the "entitlement mentality"... you feel entitled to protect yourself at the expense of every other human being on the planet.

    And you call me a ****ing hypocrite???

    Dude. I am so done with you. If I read one more word of how you view females and the sacrifices you expect them to make to save you I really will puke on my keyboard.

    Over and out.

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    Re: for men - What would you do ?

    Quote Originally Posted by Gina View Post
    A man in the workplace is an equal and he doesn't assume the role of power and responsibility by holding women down, treating them as less than a man and denigrating them. That is chauvinism and oppressing women. Please get it straight.

    A real man, doesn't act like this, treating women as only a vagina. In a relationship, they are equals as well, committed to each others' well being and safety, so hand over your paycheck, because I don't plan to be standing by wringing my hands, "assault him, just don't shoot me". I don't think I could just stand there and watch anyone I care about get hurt to save myself regardless of the fact I'm a woman.

    EDIT: I don't think I could stand by and watch anyone being harmed and not doing something to stop it.
    That's rare. When I ask women similar questions they always expect men to do the "manly" think and be the protector while she hides behind him.
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    Re: for men - What would you do ?

    Quote Originally Posted by Capster78 View Post
    Because that is exactly how he is treating her if he believes her life is more valuable than his. Then what makes a woman's life more valuable then, that we would expect a man to jump in an get himself killed trying to save a woman from rape?


    And here is that entitlement mentality again... Expecting a man to get himself killed to protect her.. Because if he does not, he is handing his wife over to the rapist. Perfect example of a woman who is completely blind to her own hypocrisy as most women are in the states. I assume you would not think a woman was handing over her husband or her kids to a rapist if the rapist was holding her at gunpoint while raping them. Does this only work one way? Are you going to just come out and admit it or am i going to have to argue your hypocrisy out of you?



    Do you expect a woman to attack a gunmen raping her husband or her children. And would you call a woman who does not, a coward?





    If you honestly hold this view equally between the sexes, then that's wonderful. But I am willing to bet my paycheck that the vast majority of the American public / American Women would not agree with you. If the majority of women still think men should pay for a date, you think they think women should step in and take a bullet to save her husband?
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    Re: for men - What would you do ?

    Quote Originally Posted by Sarcogito View Post
    Yeah, but things change when your loved ones are around. I have also been held up twice. Once in DC where I fought back and ended up chasing the guy away. I was alone. The other time was in Cambodia. The guy had a knife and I am confident I could have taken him. But my wife and young son were with me. I gave him my wallet.
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    Re: for men - What would you do ?

    Quote Originally Posted by Capster78 View Post
    So your disposable? And a woman's life is worth more than yours? If your willing to just come out and say yes, then my point has been made. Men are slowly becoming 2nd class citizens directly because of this thinking. There was a reason men risked their lives back in the early parts of our humanity. Doing so meant you got women, power, and influence amoungst your peers. Now, you are expected to be killed for a woman for nothing at all. Does this not make you disposable and a slave?



    Why? Again, a slave to a female. A bullet catcher, a protector, a dog on a leash in a leaky dog house..



    I would not let them, but I would have very little choice if they had a gun pointed at me. I would hope my loved one care enough about me to understand that there is nothing I could do but be killed.




    Fine with me, continue being a slave.. I am sure she will fill your water bowl up and throw you a bone ever once in awhile in order to protect the house and be her bullet catcher. And once your dead.. all her friends will tell her she cant live in the past and must move on. Then she can marry the next sucker that will catch bullets for her.



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    Re: for men - What would you do ?

    Quote Originally Posted by DiAnna View Post
    I don't want your ****ing paycheck. I don't care if your world view is so narcissistic that you cannot think of a single human being on the planet you would be willing to risk death for. I don't care that your view of women is so openly contemptuous that you refer to them as "vaginas", and rail about the "entitlement mentality" of women who should be willing to be tortured and brutalized because you are the one with the "entitlement mentality"... you feel entitled to protect yourself at the expense of every other human being on the planet.

    And you call me a ****ing hypocrite???

    Dude. I am so done with you. If I read one more word of how you view females and the sacrifices you expect them to make to save you I really will puke on my keyboard.

    Over and out.

    Hurts when it comes the other direction huh? Yet no one gets offended when men are called dicks, pigs, belittled in public. But on noooo.. Call a woman a vagina and the gloves are off.

    You want to see equality in the US.. here you go....



    Tell me most American women do not personify the view I lay out in my posts after watching this...
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