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    Re: Should polygamists have the right to marry?

    Quote Originally Posted by Libertas-Mors View Post
    I say yes. I see no reason why they shouldn't be able to.
    Polygamy sounds like an awful idea to me, but part of liberty means the freedom to make crappy life choices.

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    Should polygamists have the right to marry?

    Quote Originally Posted by Cardinal View Post
    Polygamy sounds like an awful idea to me, but part of liberty means the freedom to make crappy life choices.
    Precisely. Not my cup of tea but so long as it doesn't infringe on the liberty of another it shouldn't be prohibited.

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    Re: Should polygamists have the right to marry?

    Quote Originally Posted by iguanaman View Post
    Enlighten me then. Where are these other polygamists? If it isn't a religious cult thing I have no problem but aren't polygamist usually bible thumpers? You do have to admit those cults have given polygamy a bad name.
    SInce pologamy isnt legal they dont exactly advertise LOL
    not to mention you are making up a strawman.

    By default if polygamy was granted everybody said it has to follow the law

    that means consenting adults who are not immediately related

    so, the law by default would prevent the things you fear or at least make them punisble by law just like they are now.

    Nothing would change



    Yes those criminals have given polygamy a bad name as i already pointed out in post 39

    arent child molesting priest usually bible bumpers? lol
    havent their been gay child molester?

    do you judge prists and gays as a group based on those criminals too?
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    Re: Should polygamists have the right to marry?

    Quote Originally Posted by Libertas-Mors View Post
    Precisely. Not my cup of tea but so long as it doesn't infringe on the liberty of another it shouldn't be prohibited.
    some people have a very hard time doing what you do and i find it sad.

    My morals and views are for ME
    my god is for ME

    in this country it is not to be forced on others and all the decisions i make that would effect all of my fellow citizens should NEVER be based on religion/morals alone, thats hypocritical and illogical.

    because this is the rub of it, for all of those people that feel they should push their morals what happens when their morals are not the majority???? i bet their tune changes real fast.

    Im thank my god i live in the type of country i do.

    i applaud you.
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    Re: Should polygamists have the right to marry?

    Quote Originally Posted by AGENT J View Post
    SInce pologamy isnt legal they dont exactly advertise LOL
    not to mention you are making up a strawman.

    By default if polygamy was granted everybody said it has to follow the law

    that means consenting adults who are not immediately related

    so, the law by default would prevent the things you fear or at least make them punisble by law just like they are now.

    Nothing would change



    Yes those criminals have given polygamy a bad name as i already pointed out in post 39

    arent child molesting priest usually bible bumpers? lol
    havent their been gay child molester?

    do you judge prists and gays as a group based on those criminals too?
    I am always suspicious of anything to do with religion. It is used as an excuse for a multitude of sins. So yes, too many Priests are not what the claim and too many religious sects are not either. I would be suspicious of any religion based polygamist sect because of that.
    Do polygamist always have multiple wives or can women have multiple husbands too? I'm sure a really good looking woman could land 6 men easily.

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    Re: Should polygamists have the right to marry?

    Quote Originally Posted by iguanaman View Post
    I am always suspicious of anything to do with religion. It is used as an excuse for a multitude of sins. So yes, too many Priests are not what the claim and too many religious sects are not either. I would be suspicious of any religion based polygamist sect because of that.
    Do polygamist always have multiple wives or can women have multiple husbands too? I'm sure a really good looking woman could land 6 men easily.
    through out the world as i understand it there are many forms of the family

    not sure but i wouldnt even be surprised if there are all female or male polygamist, homosexuals. BUT that i dont know of.

    suspension is fine just take each thing case by case
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    Re: Should polygamists have the right to marry?

    Quote Originally Posted by Libertas-Mors View Post
    The problem with these type of 'statistical arguments' is that they can be used against positions that you probably hold like gay marriage. Discriminating against an entire group of people based on statistics or even worse historical examples gets you into all kinds of ugly contradictions.
    Why would it be counter to my position on gay marriage?
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    Re: Should polygamists have the right to marry?

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    I say no. There has been no large scale, or even moderately scaled, polygamous society that hasn't revolved around sexism, control, subjugation, and repression. If it could ever prove itself restrained to the rights and liberties of the individual, it can be considered.
    Yes, but that's when it's culturally enforced. We do no such thing.

    There are a minority of people who work best in polyamorous relationships, just like there's a minority who are gay, and a minority who "swing" with their spouse, and a minority who are into BDSM, and a minority who do all kinds of other things. If you look at it closely enough, you realize almost everyone is part of some relationship model minority.

    And people do best when they are in relationships that suit them. There is no reason polyamorous people shouldn't be allowed to marry.

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    Re: Should polygamists have the right to marry?

    Quote Originally Posted by Libertas-Mors View Post
    I say yes. I see no reason why they shouldn't be able to.
    No, they shouldn't. Our current marriage laws aren't written to deal with a marriage involving more than 2 people. Changing them would require quite a bit of work (i.e. money), and I don't think that effort is worth it, since very few people would take advantage of multiple marriage even if it was legal.

    What I think is a better idea is to allow polyamorous relationships to get together with a lawyer and draw up a legal contract dictating the terms of their marriage, which could include anything that a marriage includes today (custody of children, joint ownership of property, next of kin benefits, etc.) and then legally recognize those contracts. There might need to be a few laws passed for things like requiring businesses to recognize them for the purposes of being on each others' insurance, but for the most part, it would put the burden of time, effort, and money on the few people who want the benefits and not on the rest of us.
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    Re: Should polygamists have the right to marry?

    Keeping in mind that not all polygamists are associated with the Warren Jeffs clan, if you can afford to have multiple wives you can marry. It isn't my cup of tea, but I don't have a problem with it.

    I worked with a guy from Egypt who was married to 3 wives. He said in Egypt you can have as many wives as you wish, but you have to have lots of money. If you buy one wife a gift, you have to buy the rest of your wives the same type of gift. That's not the same as polygamy, but very similar.
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