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    Re: Should polygamists have the right to marry?

    Quote Originally Posted by Harshaw View Post
    "Which cases?" "All of them." Perfectly clear to me.
    pathetic exchange.

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    Re: Should polygamists have the right to marry?

    Quote Originally Posted by MoSurveyor View Post
    Because a triangle is the most unstable thing in human affairs, whether they are politics, international diplomacy, or the living room. On the practical side, though, if there are two wives and the husband becomes incapacitated then who makes the medical decisions for him? If both agree then everything is great but what if they don't? Also, is the third spouse responsible for children from the other two?
    In the absence of any legally documented preference, named by the injured party, probably whomever married him first.
    As for responsibility for children, it would be pretty logical that a person would be responsible only for those in whose conception he/she was involved.
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    Should polygamists have the right to marry?

    Nope. Tax breaks. I'm against it. Funny how this is on the heels of the gay marriage debate.
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    Re: Should polygamists have the right to marry?

    Quote Originally Posted by ARealConservative View Post
    pathetic exchange.
    Dude.

    Every single court case which has established SSM in a jurisdiction has been decided on the basis of discrimination against homosexuals, not on gender discrimination.

    If that's not clear to you, then there's nothing else I can do to help you.
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    Re: Should polygamists have the right to marry?

    Quote Originally Posted by lizzie View Post
    In the absence of any legally documented preference, named by the injured party, probably whomever married him first.
    As for responsibility for children, it would be pretty logical that a person would be responsible only for those in whose conception he/she was involved.
    That might not be a problem for FFM but what about MMF or MMFF? Things get a little complicated on that score when everyone's playing musical beds - or share only one. I guess the only real option, if required, would be to subject the baby to a DNA test before the birth certificate is submitted and I'm not even sure that's a good idea. If both the biological parents died don't you think the surviving spouse(s) should have a first (default) claim on their custody and continued care?
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    Re: Should polygamists have the right to marry?

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    I don't see any particular reason why I should accord him any greater status than (for example) Chief Justice Taney. Amazingly, it is possible for members of government to be wrong.
    Sure, but that's not what I was saying. He declared that there is no fundamental right to marry, and that it's "the way it is." Under the operative law, no, indeed, it is not.
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    Re: Should polygamists have the right to marry?

    Quote Originally Posted by Harshaw View Post
    Dude.

    Every single court case which has established SSM in a jurisdiction has been decided on the basis of discrimination against homosexuals, not on gender discrimination.

    If that's not clear to you, then there's nothing else I can do to help you.

    I'll repeat the issue at the federal level of what level of scrutiny must be met in regards to SSM has not been resolved

    state decisions are not what I am speaking about

    the argument over if same sex marriage is protected based on gender is one that the courts might give consideration to.

    Notice, this is forward thinking. I know the courts have not done so yet, I am saying they might in the future.

    this entire exchange has been pathetic, and I blame you.

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    Re: Should polygamists have the right to marry?

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    I'll repeat the issue at the federal level of what level of scrutiny must be met in regards to SSM has not been resolved

    state decisions are not what I am speaking about

    the argument over if same sex marriage is protected based on gender is one that the courts might give consideration to.

    Notice, this is forward thinking. I know the courts have not done so yet, I am saying they might in the future.

    this entire exchange has been pathetic, and I blame you.
    I'm sure you do, but you're blaming the wrong person, because you don't have the slightest what you -- or I -- am talking about.

    I'm not referring only to state cases. The BIG case, Perry, concerning California's Proposition 8 and recently heard on appeal by the Supreme Court, is a federal case. It was not decided on the basis of gender discrimination, but on the basis of discrimination against homosexuals.

    I say again, every single case -- state or federal -- has been decided on that basis. Thus, you are introducing an issue which is not necessary for disposition.

    Why this is difficult for you to grasp, only you can say. But it is, most definitely, not my problem.
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    Re: Should polygamists have the right to marry?

    I'm not against the idea but it seems like a pretty clear legal nightmare to me.

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    Re: Should polygamists have the right to marry?

    Quote Originally Posted by Harshaw View Post
    I'm sure you do, but you're blaming the wrong person, because you don't have the slightest what you -- or I -- am talking about.

    I'm not referring only to state cases. The BIG case, Perry, concerning California's Proposition 8 and recently heard on appeal by the Supreme Court, is a federal case. It was not decided on the basis of gender discrimination, but on the basis of discrimination against homosexuals.

    I say again, every single case -- state or federal -- has been decided on that basis. Thus, you are introducing an issue which is not necessary for disposition.

    Why this is difficult for you to grasp, only you can say. But it is, most definitely, not my problem.
    so by cases, you really mean the one case that is currently under review.

    and considering I said the issue at the federal level of what level of scrutiny must be met in regards to SSM has not been resolved. is dead on correct, were done.

    pathetic exchange.

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