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    Re: Should the horrific photos of Newtown victims be published?

    Far worse things on the internet. I don't really care if they get published or not, if they are they should be published after permission is granted. But I'm not sure that's a 100% necessity for publishing photos of folk. Otherwise the paparazzi would be out of business.
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    Re: Should the horrific photos of Newtown victims be published?

    I almost think if such photos were published then that would change the stance of extremist gun nuts and lead to consensus to ban such weapons, but no, it wouldn't. Some really need to be slapped across the face with the consequences of their positions, but even then, I doubt it would make a difference.

    Also, if this happened to me or my loved ones, I would not want such photos going around for everyone to see, and these were small kids. I don't want to see any of that. Didn't want to see even bin laden's corpse. It seems like such a classless and disgraceful thing to do in the end.

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    Re: Should the horrific photos of Newtown victims be published?

    Quote Originally Posted by chromium View Post
    I almost think if such photos were published then that would change the stance of extremist gun nuts and lead to consensus to ban such weapons, but no, it wouldn't. Some really need to be slapped across the face with the consequences of their positions, but even then, I doubt it would make a difference.
    I was thinking of this in a very similar context, with completely opposite applications. We do need to realize the consequences and responsibilities of freedom. Allowing guns in a society does mean you shall reap a certain amount of gun crime, including homicide. Isolated, random, and low frequency mass shootings as the likes that had occurred in Newtown are also probabilities in the exercise of freedom. Given enough time, all probabilities are realized. So we need to understand that this tragedy, while a tragedy, is also a consequence of freedom. To keep freedom, we need to realize the dangerous state we call for, the work and responsibilities we must shoulder to keep it. While we can always work in ways to limit probabilities and prevent certain outcomes; the fact that we are free means that we cannot be safe. To keep freedom, we must understand the underlying dynamics and consequences.
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    Re: Should the horrific photos of Newtown victims be published?

    If parents want to allow pics of their kid's bodies made public then so be it and who are we to say otherwise? It's a very personal decision and none of our business.


    In response to whoever said "everyone knows what [these weapons] do" - that's bull. Most people have no clue what those things can really do. All they "know" is what's in the movies and we all know most of that is overblown. If the parents are willing then this is information, which is always a good thing when making decisions of such importance.

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    It doesn't matter how many times you repeat the lie, it's still a lie. The shooter at Sandy Hook used 4 handguns, not a semi auto rifle.
    And that information, too, should be captioned with the pics. We shouldn't be hiding the evidence but we should also make sure it's not being skewed by misinformation, either.



    Quote Originally Posted by pbrauer View Post
    Should the horrific photos of Newtown victims be published?

    Yes
    Only if all the parents agree.
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    I voted in the middle - but I think it should be the parents of the children being used that need to agree. Not all parents have to agree to let their kid's body be published for others to be shown. Personally, I wouldn't do it but it's not my child that was killed and it's not my place to make the decision for the parents.
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    Re: Should the horrific photos of Newtown victims be published?

    Quote Originally Posted by SmokeAndMirrors View Post
    No. To what end would that be at all productive?

    It is important to report this tragedy, and for the public to dialogue about it with the facts.

    But what is the purpose of showing the gore? So the news organization can get some more page hits?

    That's not journalism. That's just violence porn.

    As soon as someone can give me some actual reason why publishing something like that is necessary, I'll roll it around. But right now, it seems like nothing but a ploy for publicity -- capitalizing on someone else's pain.
    It can be violence porn or just publicity but it's also information. If someone wants to go to the cost and trouble of simulating the damage with gel then I'm good with that, too. Form up a few child gel dummies and put some rounds into them. Doesn't matter where the information comes from but some people need to see what damage is actually done instead of making up their own visions based on Hollywood's fictional special effects.
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    Re: Should the horrific photos of Newtown victims be published?

    Quote Originally Posted by earthworm View Post
    no need
    The mass murders will continue until the law-makers improve and grow testicles to control the guns...
    I'd give them another twenty years....
    This is what we are working with....
    Mass murders will still continue even if you are somehow magically able to remove all guns from society. You can make bombs with the very things that are under your kitchen sink. And there is not near enough LEO's to watch every single person every minute of the day. Not to mention not enough people to watch the LEO's that are watching everyone else.
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    Re: Should the horrific photos of Newtown victims be published?

    No. There is absolutely no need for anyone to see pictures of these dead children. Publishing the pictures changes nothing.

    Anyone who condones shamelessly exploiting dead children to push whatever agenda they are peddling needs to have a good look at themselves. Stop trying to claim the moral high ground by clambering onto the corpses of children, it's disgusting.

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    Re: Should the horrific photos of Newtown victims be published?

    Quote Originally Posted by Serenity View Post
    No. There is absolutely no need for anyone to see pictures of these dead children. Publishing the pictures changes nothing.

    Anyone who condones shamelessly exploiting dead children to push whatever agenda they are peddling needs to have a good look at themselves. Stop trying to claim the moral high ground by clambering onto the corpses of children, it's disgusting.
    I couldn't have said it better. I can't understand why anyone would want to publish pictures like this, especially for some political agenda. It's exploitation at it's very worst.

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    Re: Should the horrific photos of Newtown victims be published?

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    I was thinking of this in a very similar context, with completely opposite applications. We do need to realize the consequences and responsibilities of freedom. Allowing guns in a society does mean you shall reap a certain amount of gun crime, including homicide. Isolated, random, and low frequency mass shootings as the likes that had occurred in Newtown are also probabilities in the exercise of freedom. Given enough time, all probabilities are realized. So we need to understand that this tragedy, while a tragedy, is also a consequence of freedom. To keep freedom, we need to realize the dangerous state we call for, the work and responsibilities we must shoulder to keep it. While we can always work in ways to limit probabilities and prevent certain outcomes; the fact that we are free means that we cannot be safe. To keep freedom, we must understand the underlying dynamics and consequences.
    Perhaps, but there's still really no good reason to publish those pictures. We usually do not publish pictures of dead people, and why should we? It's especially disturbing when it's dead children.

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    Re: Should the horrific photos of Newtown victims be published?

    Quote Originally Posted by Wiggen View Post
    What I'm trying to say here is that by virtue of carrying a weapon capable of multiple shots without the necessity of reloading for a while, the killer was able to shoot small children so many times he actually dismembered some of them. Does that help?
    Yes, and that is a societal problem. Would you rather they use a bomb? People who want to kill are going to use whatever means necessary to do it and if they want to kill a lot of people, then they are going to come up with a way to do it.

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