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    Re: National Parks

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    Wouldn't the land be zoned as a park or something of the sort? I'm not sure your fear makes much sense with that in place.
    Zoneing laws are mainly for cities and towns. Not wide open unused and undeveloped land.
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    Re: National Parks

    Quote Originally Posted by DiAnna View Post
    There is no way I'd ever be in favor of having our national treasures auctioned off to private/corporate hands. Even the thought of it makes me physically ill.

    I have to agree. While I tend towards a smaller-government ideology, the preservation of State and National parks, forests, monuments and wilderness areas is, to me, a worthy and valuable practice.

    I did an economic analysis once on whether running parks and whatnot would be economically viable for private corporations in a purely lassiez-faire condition.... that answer was "not really". They could make so much money developing the land that to make it worth keeping it natural (more or less) they'd have to charge as much to visit as Disney World, perhaps more. I'd hate to see our national parks and forests limited to the rich and prosperous only.

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    Re: National Parks

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    Why would they do that? What would be their motivation to do such a thing?
    Profit is a pretty good motive.

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    Re: National Parks

    Quote Originally Posted by Kal'Stang View Post
    Hell no corporations should not have national parks. They'd be turned into a wasteland. Nothing but roads and buildings.
    Not roads and building! This might come as a shock to you but all parks have roads and buildings.

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    Re: National Parks

    Quote Originally Posted by Kal'Stang View Post
    Zoneing laws are mainly for cities and towns. Not wide open unused and undeveloped land.
    Ok, but the point being is that the government would not simply allow the businesses to do whatever they wanted with the land. They would most likely not even really sell the land, but lease it out for something like 99 years.

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    Re: National Parks

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    Why would they do that? What would be their motivation to do such a thing?

    What is a corporation's raison d'etre?

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    Re: National Parks

    Quote Originally Posted by ChezC3 View Post
    What is a corporation's raison d'etre?
    That is like asking what is governments reason for existence and then deciding to be an anarchist when the question is answered.

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    Re: National Parks

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    That is like asking what is governments reason for existence and then deciding to be an anarchist when the question is answered.
    No, I've already stated my position in post #14.

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    Re: National Parks

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    Ok, but the point being is that the government would not simply allow the businesses to do whatever they wanted with the land. They would most likely not even really sell the land, but lease it out for something like 99 years.
    Why would any corporation want to buy or even lease a piece of land that they couldn't build on or extract resources from? In the end something would be done to that land if corporations were allowed to own (or lease) the land. All of it would ultimately be a detriment.
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    Re: National Parks

    Quote Originally Posted by Kal'Stang View Post
    Why would any corporation want to buy or even lease a piece of land that they couldn't build on or extract resources from? In the end something would be done to that land if corporations were allowed to own (or lease) the land. All of it would ultimately be a detriment.
    You do realize I didn't grab that 99 year lease business out of thin air right? I'm not sure how businesses doing something to land somehow means that the land is worse off, but in any event government does all kind of things to the land as well and if you really want to get picky about it they are only harming the land.

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