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  • saber rattling like a champ - not a real threat - never was

    5 9.09%
  • a spoiled brat seeking attention - not a real threat

    15 27.27%
  • trying to provoke US/SK into striking first

    6 10.91%
  • a real threat

    5 9.09%
  • a teeny-tiny threat - but still something we should watch

    18 32.73%
  • other - please explain

    6 10.91%
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Thread: North Korea - Your Gut Says....

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    Re: North Korea - Your Gut Says....

    they are throwing the toys out of the pram! My biggest worry is that with communication breaking down between both sides that something very small could escalate very fast.
    ‘This is not peace, it is an armistice for 20 years.’ (Ferdinand Foch. After the Treaty of Versailles, 1919).

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    Re: North Korea - Your Gut Says....

    Quote Originally Posted by grip View Post
    Kim is making it about the outside world in order to threaten his own people.
    It's all for internal consumption, an attempt to show he's strong and he can make America jump. This is a perfect time for Obama to take a two week golf vacation in Hawaii.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CanadaJohn View Post
    It's all for internal consumption, an attempt to show he's strong and he can make America jump. This is a perfect time for Obama to take a two week golf vacation in Hawaii.
    I agree it's more about either controlling his generals, getting concessions from other countries and something we should mostly ignore but it could spin out. His people are starving on a regular basis and unless he gets concessions from others the Chinese won't feed them all. That will eventually lead to internal turmoil that spills out into the rest of the world.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dragonfly View Post
    That's not our job to do. It didn't work in Vietnam, Iraq, or Afghanistan. Why the hell would you propose doing such a thing in NK?
    You know damn well the latter two have nothing to do with a situation like this? Why did you mention them? Should I expect a Bush dig next?
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    Re: North Korea - Your Gut Says....

    Quote Originally Posted by CanadaJohn View Post
    I believe what's happening in North Korea represents an internal revolt against the new leader which will likely result in his ouster sometime in the next few months. When he came into power after daddy-dearest died, he fired a bunch of military leaders and it wouldn't surprise me if one or some of these are behind unrest in the military and Kim Jong Un is trying to portray strong military leadership in the face of a revolt.

    It's possible, in such a situation, that mistakes will be made and missiles are launched in the confusion, but America shouldn't make the mistake of thinking this has anything to do with them - it's solely an internal struggle for power and survival.
    : I read an interesting article that stated that the Generals are the ones in charge now. The "leader" is too inexperienced to know what to do, but I don't believe China will sit idly by and not intervene. We shall see.

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    Re: North Korea - Your Gut Says....

    Quote Originally Posted by grip View Post
    So if they can't directly strike the US mainland with massive causalities they're a piss-ant? Besides Pearl Harbor the US had no other mainland strikes during WWII. Do you have any doubt that if they strike SK that American soldiers won't die on a large scale?
    I'm all for bringing all our people home. I don't think we need anyone in foreign countries.

    But besides that I don't believe NK has a suicide pact.

    They're piss-ants in terms of their technology and ability to do much more than start their own complete and utter destruction.

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    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    You know damn well the latter two have nothing to do with a situation like this? Why did you mention them? Should I expect a Bush dig next?
    We did not invade Iraq for self-defense.

    I'll give you Afghanistan except that winning the hearts and minds of the native people is far from what we intended to do or have done.

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    Re: North Korea - Your Gut Says....

    Quote Originally Posted by CanadaJohn View Post
    It's all for internal consumption, an attempt to show he's strong and he can make America jump. This is a perfect time for Obama to take a two week golf vacation in Hawaii.
    Hint, hint...it's not working this time! Are people finally seeing the big picture?

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    Re: North Korea - Your Gut Says....

    Quote Originally Posted by Dragonfly View Post
    I'm all for bringing all our people home. I don't think we need anyone in foreign countries.

    But besides that I don't believe NK has a suicide pact.

    They're piss-ants in terms of their technology and ability to do much more than start their own complete and utter destruction.
    I doubt anything will happen. But I wouldn't underestimate their ability to cause massive casualties on SK, Japan and US troops. Plus we don't know how much China will back them. We never did beat them even back in the 50's, so I wouldn't count on a quick defeat.
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    Re: North Korea - Your Gut Says....

    Quote Originally Posted by Dragonfly View Post
    So all the other countries in the world have had adequate justification for attacking the USofA over the last 60 years then?
    Probably truth be told. But since we had the nukes and they didn't; it wouldn't have ended so well for them.

    Quote Originally Posted by Dragonfly View Post
    And because you have a gun in your house means you're going to use it so the police have justification to come in and get it and you as well?
    Perhaps you have confused your medications as that makes no sense. If I had my gun pointed out the window threatening to kill the police, then yes they have justification to come in right after they blow me away which is what we should do to North Korea.

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