View Poll Results: Criminal Immigrant vs Illegal Immigrant

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  • I agree with the term "Illegal Immigrant" and the term "Criminal Immigrant"

    12 38.71%
  • I agree with the term "Illegal Immigrant", but NOT the term "Criminal Immigrant"

    7 22.58%
  • I do NOT agree with the term "Illegal Immigrant", but I do agree with "Criminal Immigrant"

    3 9.68%
  • I do NOT agree with the use of the term "Illegal Immigrant" NOR do I agree with "Criminal Immigrant"

    3 9.68%
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    6 19.35%
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Thread: "Criminal Immigrant" instead of "Illegal Immigrant"?

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    Re: "Criminal Immigrant" instead of "Illegal Immigrant"?

    Quote Originally Posted by Zyphlin View Post
    For the same reason you keep saying that "Illegal" is wrong. Because the definition of immigrant:

    "a person who comes to a country to take up permanent residence"

    Which highlights my earlier comments in terms of your point. There's the actual literal definition of words and then there is the general societally understood usage of them. EVERYONE tends to pick and choose when they want to go with the former or the latter
    Well **** me. I never knew that. I've actually never looked up the word under the assumption that I knew exactly what it meant. I was obviously dead wrong. I stand corrected.
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    Re: "Criminal Immigrant" instead of "Illegal Immigrant"?

    What about Unauthorized expats?
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    Re: "Criminal Immigrant" instead of "Illegal Immigrant"?

    What to call them?

    I usually just ask them their name and hope I remember it next time I see them.
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    Re: "Criminal Immigrant" instead of "Illegal Immigrant"?

    Quote Originally Posted by Gardener View Post
    What to call them?

    I usually just ask them their name and hope I remember it next time I see them.
    Regardless of what they say, I just call them Toby.
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    Re: "Criminal Immigrant" instead of "Illegal Immigrant"?

    Quote Originally Posted by Tucker Case View Post
    I'm not sure why people seem to think that immigrant implies a permanent stay. I don't have that belief at all, but perhaps that is because I know so many different immigrants from different countries, many of whom have no intention whatsoever of staying here after they retire.
    I don't know the particular situations of those people but you can look here at Cornell Law to see if the US recognizes them as "immigrants" or not. (I had trouble finding it yesterday or I would have linked it, then.) It does have several references to people who have no intent to stay but all those that I saw also included some other qualifier, like being a student or some time limit, etc.
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    Re: "Criminal Immigrant" instead of "Illegal Immigrant"?

    Quote Originally Posted by MoSurveyor View Post
    I don't know the particular situations of those people but you can look here at Cornell Law to see if the US recognizes them as "immigrants" or not. (I had trouble finding it yesterday or I would have linked it, then.) It does have several references to people who have no intent to stay but all those that I saw also included some other qualifier, like being a student or some time limit, etc.
    Thanks. Zyph also corrected my flawed assumptions about what the word immigrant means. My apologies for my previous ignorance.
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    Re: "Criminal Immigrant" instead of "Illegal Immigrant"?

    Oy vey. 20+ pages in the other thread isn't enough? We have to regurgitate it in another forum and pretend it's a new idea?
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    Re: "Criminal Immigrant" instead of "Illegal Immigrant"?

    Quote Originally Posted by radcen View Post
    Oy vey. 20+ pages in the other thread isn't enough? We have to regurgitate it in another forum and pretend it's a new idea?
    It's a very different idea. One is about the AP choosing to use a different term, this one is about whether or not the proposed alternative is viewed as acceptable.
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    Re: "Criminal Immigrant" instead of "Illegal Immigrant"?

    Nice thread, TC. Illegal immigrant sounds fairly strong enough to me.

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