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Dr. Benjamin Carson

What do you think of Dr. Carson?

  • The man is obviously God

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • He should be President, and anyone who disagrees is a racist

    Votes: 2 9.1%
  • Sent by Satan

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • An apparently good man and good doctor, but not President.

    Votes: 9 40.9%
  • Sloppy Joe's rule!

    Votes: 11 50.0%

  • Total voters
    22
Not really. You said that Carson was far more qualified to be President than Obama. I'm wondering what you are basing such a seemingly absurd statement on.


4 years of complete failure and attitude

Obama's attitude is anti success, anti freedom, Anti American
 
4 years of complete failure and attitude

Obama's attitude is anti success, anti freedom, Anti American

Ah, so you were just defining "qualifications" based on your personal agreement/disagreement with their politics, not on something rational and objective. That kind of makes it a meaningless exercise in mental masturbation to make a statement like that, no?
 
Well, the left certainly hates him.

That's for sure.
 
Ah, so you were just defining "qualifications" based on your personal agreement/disagreement with their politics, not on something rational and objective. That kind of makes it a meaningless exercise in mental masturbation to make a statement like that, no?

there are several ways to evaluate a candidate

1) his views and policies

2) his ability to get those views and policies enacted. FDR for example was very effective in getting his policies enacted. That made him an effective president. Stalin also was a very effective leader. Both were awful in terms of what they achieved though

Obama fails on both counts-he has crappy policies and he's not very effective in getting things done
 
....and he's not very effective in getting things done

Then why is everyone so pissy about him getting Obamacare passed and getting the bailout passed, raising taxes on the rich, getting immigration reform seriously discussed, and getting gay marriage seriously discussed, and so on and so forth?

Objectively, He's gotten a lot of **** through that many others have tried and failed at. Just sayin'. Even if you disagree with his politics, he's certainly gotten **** passed that people are pretty pissed about. He's not FDR good at it, but he's certainly done enough to be considered "qualified" for the job. Obamacare alone was a fairly impressive accomplishment, objectively speaking. Then getting it past the SC? HUGE.

I think you are underestimating his ability to get **** done. In fact, that's part of the reason why everyone keeps screaming about how he's ruining the country. You can't have it both ways. He can't be destroying the country with his policies while simultaneously doing nothing at all of note. It's impossible for both to be true simultaneously. He's either incompetent at getting things passed, which means he has been blocked from destroying the country, or he's very good at getting things passed, which is how he's destroying the country.
 
Conversly, the only real qualification for President that I can see with Carson is that one agrees with his politics, which isn't really a qualification for president. He's an exceptionally accomplished surgeon, and if I was a conjoined twin connected at the head, I wouldn't want anyone else doing the surgery, but I'm not really sure how that translates into a presidency.
 
Then why is everyone so pissy about him getting Obamacare passed and getting the bailout passed, raising taxes on the rich, getting immigration reform seriously discussed, and getting gay marriage seriously discussed, and so on and so forth?

Objectively, He's gotten a lot of **** through that many others have tried and failed at. Just sayin'. Even if you disagree with his politics, he's certainly gotten **** passed that people are pretty pissed about. He's not FDR good at it, but he's certainly done enough to be considered "qualified" for the job. Obamacare alone was a fairly impressive accomplishment, objectively speaking. Then getting it past the SC? HUGE.

I think you are underestimating his ability to get **** done. In fact, that's part of the reason why everyone keeps screaming about how he's ruining the country. You can't have it both ways. He can't be destroying the country with his policies while simultaneously doing nothing at all of note. It's impossible for both to be true simultaneously. He's either incompetent at getting things passed, which means he has been blocked from destroying the country, or he's very good at getting things passed, which is how he's destroying the country.

I'm not aware of anything Obama did to get "Obamacare" enacted. IMV, that was the result of whatever Nancy and Harry could manage to push through Congress. Obama wasn't in office (other than being a Senator) when TARP was enacted, but he did manage to abuse it to bailout the auto companies. The discussions on immigration reform and SSM have been ongoing issues for years.

I don't blame Obama for anything, nor do I give him credit for much, because he really hasn't done anything of significance outside of the auto bailout. Wait, he did manage to screw up the Stimulus. No, hold on, that was Nancy and Harry once again. My bad...
 
I'm not aware of anything Obama did to get "Obamacare" enacted.

Then why does he get all the blame (as in why is it not called federalized Romneycare)?

Obama wasn't in office (other than being a Senator) when TARP was enacted, but he did manage to abuse it to bailout the auto companies.

True. It's hilarious how he gets blamed for it, though. Also, the auto bailout happened before Obama took office, too.

The discussions on immigration reform and SSM have been ongoing issues for years.

True, but there hasn't been this serious of a discussion on them during my lifetime.

I don't blame Obama for anything, nor do I give him credit for much, because he really hasn't done anything of significance outside of the auto bailout. Wait, he did manage to screw up the Stimulus. No, hold on, that was Nancy and Harry once again. My bad...

So you don't think he's ruining the country. I can respect that, although it places you in a minority.
 
Then why does he get all the blame (as in why is it not called federalized Romneycare)?

Probably because he happened to be in office...

True. It's hilarious how he gets blamed for it, though. Also, the auto bailout happened before Obama took office, too.

Loans were made, but the takeovers and subversion of bankruptcy law was one thing for which Obama IS responsible.

True, but there hasn't been this serious of a discussion on them during my lifetime.

These issues generally get discussed only when politicians are concerned about the next election.

So you don't think he's ruining the country. I can respect that, although it places you in a minority.

I'm used to being in a minority in my political beliefs, so it doesn't bother me.
 
Some people are brilliant at certain things, and incept at others.

Dr Carson is a brilliant doctor.

Dr Carson is inept politically.
 
Yea, we were scared of Palin too, remember. Tell the same lie...

If the Repubs had any intention of him running they would not have trotted him out yet, unnamed Republican nominees always do better than real ones anyway. This is just the newer, softer side of the republican party, no real change. "Hey lookie here this guy, he is a REpublican, pediatric neurosurgeon, and he looks just like you, come vote for us." Someone above said the Republicans falsely believe blacks simply vote because of race, I think he is right.
I think Dr. Carson is a very intelligent black conservative and he scares the hell out of you Liberals.
 
Probably because he happened to be in office...



Loans were made, but the takeovers and subversion of bankruptcy law was one thing for which Obama IS responsible.



These issues generally get discussed only when politicians are concerned about the next election.



I'm used to being in a minority in my political beliefs, so it doesn't bother me.

We're basically of the same mind about Obama.
 
And if he was spouting stereotypical liberal BS would that also be damaging to his hard earned reputation?

True. A reasoned person tends not to speak in the extremes.
 
What do you think?

This just seems really childish and ridiculous of the left to me. Ask a conservative, christian man what he thinks about the LGBT community, he speaks his mind, and than he's labeled an indicent bastard who hates equality.

You ask a liberal, atheist man what he thinks of Christians or religion in general, he's (ironically) God incarnate who has found and understands the truth of the universe and reality.

Same thing with the whole Chic-fil-a thing.
LGBT community: "Hey, lets ask the conservative, Christian president/CEO of Chic-fil-a to see what he thinks about us and if he supports us"

Dan Cathy: "No I oppose you"

LGBT community: " **GASP****......lets get angry and chastize him and try to get people to hate him because of his beliefs!! "

I get the right is vocal about it but damn last time I checked they have jsut as much of a right to criticize the LGBT community as the LGBT critcizes them for being "bigots"

just my :twocents: :coffeepap
 
I think Dr. Carson is a very intelligent black conservative and he scares the hell out of you Liberals.

Of what consequence is his race?

He is a very intelligent man, apparently Conservative. He doesn't say anything that every other Conservative says though. Why is he special?
 
This just seems really childish and ridiculous of the left to me. Ask a conservative, christian man what he thinks about the LGBT community, he speaks his mind, and than he's labeled an indicent bastard who hates equality.

You ask a liberal, atheist man what he thinks of Christians or religion in general, he's (ironically) God incarnate who has found and understands the truth of the universe and reality.

Same thing with the whole Chic-fil-a thing.
LGBT community: "Hey, lets ask the conservative, Christian president/CEO of Chic-fil-a to see what he thinks about us and if he supports us"

Dan Cathy: "No I oppose you"

LGBT community: " **GASP****......lets get angry and chastize him and try to get people to hate him because of his beliefs!! "

I get the right is vocal about it but damn last time I checked they have jsut as much of a right to criticize the LGBT community as the LGBT critcizes them for being "bigots"

just my :twocents: :coffeepap

And the Dixie Chicks had a right to criticize Bush. I guess it was Liberals that demanded radio stations stop playing their songs.

Or there's this list:

Boycott Liberals

I guess he's a liberal too. :lamo
 
It is really funny to see this. How many times have conservatives tried to explain that disagreeing with a black person's politics is actually not racism? There are some liberals, however, that have extra special disdain for black (or really, any minority) conservatives. Would you agree with me that if any part of the criticism is due to a person's race, that's bigotry?

I don't think people are criticizing HIM based on his race. They're criticizing the party for the way they seem to be playing him.

Look, I don't pretend to know why the GOP is so worked up about this guy and I'm not going to commit to a guess when I just don't know. But that said, I can see why people who are less gun-shy would do so. I mean, here's what we're working with.

- Carson is very unremarkable in terms of his political stances.
- Carson is a decent orator, but not great, and there are other people who are better in the GOP.
- Carson is a doctor, but he's not the only one -- there's an entire caucus dedicated to Republican doctors.
- Carson is educated and accomplished and the GOP does have problems with being perceived as anti-intellectual, but again, he's not the only one by a mile.

So given all those facts, why is the GOP making such a big fuss about this guy?

It could just be because he's some fresh meat, which they desperately need, given the way all the tea partiers are running their mouths right into irrelevancy. That's a workable theory.

Or... it could be because they're hoping his race will win them some minority voters. Given that they treated Herman Cain very similarly and the only thing he shares with Carson is race, this is not an unreasonable theory either.

I don't pretend to know which one it is, but those are really the only two options. It's really either desperation or a racial appeal.
 
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And the Dixie Chicks had a right to criticize Bush. I guess it was Liberals that demanded radio stations stop playing their songs.

ok.... your proving the point I'm trying to make?

Or there's this list:

Boycott Liberals

I guess he's a liberal too. :lamo

I'm assuming "he" is the guy who made this list... The thing is this is only one man with some followers, there was not an entire movement to gather pitchforks and picks and drive the Dixie chicks out of town. The entire LGBT commuity goes on a rampage when someone openly says they don't like the way they roughen the sack.
 
It's not just "the childish left" that does that sort of thing.

At the moment, it seems pretty damn childish to me.... unless you're trying to say that it is in fact the LGBT community and not the entire left, if so... I'll agree to that. Hopefully, I will not be run out of town with an angry mob brandishing pitchforks and muskets.
 
I'm assuming "he" is the guy who made this list... The thing is this is only one man with some followers, there was not an entire movement to gather pitchforks and picks and drive the Dixie chicks out of town. The entire LGBT commuity goes on a rampage when someone openly says they don't like the way they roughen the sack.

Doesn't the "entire evangelical Christian" community go on a rampage whenever some atheist openly says that they don't like "under god" in the pledge and "in god we trust" on the money or that saying "merry Christmas" to everyone is offensive to those who are not Christian?
 
Doesn't the "entire evangelical Christian" community go on a rampage whenever some atheist openly says that they don't like "under god" in the pledge and "in god we trust" on the money or that saying "merry Christmas" to everyone is offensive to those who are not Christian?

Well it's not like were dealing a historical religious event, which we as citizens of this country are free to participate in under the Constitution. And its not like our ability as citizens to freely say "merry Christmas" to whoever we want too is protected under the first amendment or anything.

And when it comes to changing the pledge of allegiance, I'm pretty sure its not just the Christian community that gets annoyed with the thin skins of atheists when this issue comes up, but every "patriot" of you will. They want to alter a traditional creed that we have just because they're scared of the unknown of something most of them do not understand..... No, actually I know I'm right.
 
I am 53 years old. I have lived all over the country and worked for all kinds of business and governments, Not once, not ever, do I recall someone saying anything negative when I said Merry Christmas, I have never been told not to say it. Maybe somebody somewhere did, but Fux has gone crazy with this Fauxrage. Who, exactly is really waging a war on Christmas.
Well it's not like were dealing a historical religious event, which we as citizens of this country are free to participate in under the Constitution. And its not like our ability as citizens to freely say "merry Christmas" to whoever we want too is protected under the first amendment or anything.

And when it comes to changing the pledge of allegiance, I'm pretty sure its not just the Christian community that gets annoyed with the thin skins of atheists when this issue comes up, but every "patriot" of you will. They want to alter a traditional creed that we have just because they're scared of the unknown of something most of them do not understand..... No, actually I know I'm right.
 
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