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  • He should be President, and anyone who disagrees is a racist

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  • An apparently good man and good doctor, but not President.

    10 38.46%
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    Re: Dr. Benjamin Carson

    Quote Originally Posted by Tucker Case View Post
    Not really. You said that Carson was far more qualified to be President than Obama. I'm wondering what you are basing such a seemingly absurd statement on.

    4 years of complete failure and attitude

    Obama's attitude is anti success, anti freedom, Anti American



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    Re: Dr. Benjamin Carson

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    4 years of complete failure and attitude

    Obama's attitude is anti success, anti freedom, Anti American
    Ah, so you were just defining "qualifications" based on your personal agreement/disagreement with their politics, not on something rational and objective. That kind of makes it a meaningless exercise in mental masturbation to make a statement like that, no?
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    Re: Dr. Benjamin Carson

    Well, the left certainly hates him.

    That's for sure.

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    Re: Dr. Benjamin Carson

    Quote Originally Posted by Tucker Case View Post
    Ah, so you were just defining "qualifications" based on your personal agreement/disagreement with their politics, not on something rational and objective. That kind of makes it a meaningless exercise in mental masturbation to make a statement like that, no?
    there are several ways to evaluate a candidate

    1) his views and policies

    2) his ability to get those views and policies enacted. FDR for example was very effective in getting his policies enacted. That made him an effective president. Stalin also was a very effective leader. Both were awful in terms of what they achieved though

    Obama fails on both counts-he has crappy policies and he's not very effective in getting things done



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    Re: Dr. Benjamin Carson

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    ....and he's not very effective in getting things done
    Then why is everyone so pissy about him getting Obamacare passed and getting the bailout passed, raising taxes on the rich, getting immigration reform seriously discussed, and getting gay marriage seriously discussed, and so on and so forth?

    Objectively, He's gotten a lot of **** through that many others have tried and failed at. Just sayin'. Even if you disagree with his politics, he's certainly gotten **** passed that people are pretty pissed about. He's not FDR good at it, but he's certainly done enough to be considered "qualified" for the job. Obamacare alone was a fairly impressive accomplishment, objectively speaking. Then getting it past the SC? HUGE.

    I think you are underestimating his ability to get **** done. In fact, that's part of the reason why everyone keeps screaming about how he's ruining the country. You can't have it both ways. He can't be destroying the country with his policies while simultaneously doing nothing at all of note. It's impossible for both to be true simultaneously. He's either incompetent at getting things passed, which means he has been blocked from destroying the country, or he's very good at getting things passed, which is how he's destroying the country.
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    Re: Dr. Benjamin Carson

    Conversly, the only real qualification for President that I can see with Carson is that one agrees with his politics, which isn't really a qualification for president. He's an exceptionally accomplished surgeon, and if I was a conjoined twin connected at the head, I wouldn't want anyone else doing the surgery, but I'm not really sure how that translates into a presidency.
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    Re: Dr. Benjamin Carson

    Quote Originally Posted by Tucker Case View Post
    Then why is everyone so pissy about him getting Obamacare passed and getting the bailout passed, raising taxes on the rich, getting immigration reform seriously discussed, and getting gay marriage seriously discussed, and so on and so forth?

    Objectively, He's gotten a lot of **** through that many others have tried and failed at. Just sayin'. Even if you disagree with his politics, he's certainly gotten **** passed that people are pretty pissed about. He's not FDR good at it, but he's certainly done enough to be considered "qualified" for the job. Obamacare alone was a fairly impressive accomplishment, objectively speaking. Then getting it past the SC? HUGE.

    I think you are underestimating his ability to get **** done. In fact, that's part of the reason why everyone keeps screaming about how he's ruining the country. You can't have it both ways. He can't be destroying the country with his policies while simultaneously doing nothing at all of note. It's impossible for both to be true simultaneously. He's either incompetent at getting things passed, which means he has been blocked from destroying the country, or he's very good at getting things passed, which is how he's destroying the country.
    I'm not aware of anything Obama did to get "Obamacare" enacted. IMV, that was the result of whatever Nancy and Harry could manage to push through Congress. Obama wasn't in office (other than being a Senator) when TARP was enacted, but he did manage to abuse it to bailout the auto companies. The discussions on immigration reform and SSM have been ongoing issues for years.

    I don't blame Obama for anything, nor do I give him credit for much, because he really hasn't done anything of significance outside of the auto bailout. Wait, he did manage to screw up the Stimulus. No, hold on, that was Nancy and Harry once again. My bad...
    I don't often change my signature, but this was just too over the top to let anyone forget with what this country is up against...
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    I am for gay marriage because it ticks off Jesus freaks and social conservatives. Gays are also good voters because the vote for my side so I fight next to them.

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    Re: Dr. Benjamin Carson

    Quote Originally Posted by AlabamaPaul View Post
    I'm not aware of anything Obama did to get "Obamacare" enacted.
    Then why does he get all the blame (as in why is it not called federalized Romneycare)?

    Obama wasn't in office (other than being a Senator) when TARP was enacted, but he did manage to abuse it to bailout the auto companies.
    True. It's hilarious how he gets blamed for it, though. Also, the auto bailout happened before Obama took office, too.

    The discussions on immigration reform and SSM have been ongoing issues for years.
    True, but there hasn't been this serious of a discussion on them during my lifetime.

    I don't blame Obama for anything, nor do I give him credit for much, because he really hasn't done anything of significance outside of the auto bailout. Wait, he did manage to screw up the Stimulus. No, hold on, that was Nancy and Harry once again. My bad...
    So you don't think he's ruining the country. I can respect that, although it places you in a minority.
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    Re: Dr. Benjamin Carson

    Quote Originally Posted by Tucker Case View Post
    Then why does he get all the blame (as in why is it not called federalized Romneycare)?
    Probably because he happened to be in office...

    True. It's hilarious how he gets blamed for it, though. Also, the auto bailout happened before Obama took office, too.
    Loans were made, but the takeovers and subversion of bankruptcy law was one thing for which Obama IS responsible.

    True, but there hasn't been this serious of a discussion on them during my lifetime.
    These issues generally get discussed only when politicians are concerned about the next election.

    So you don't think he's ruining the country. I can respect that, although it places you in a minority.
    I'm used to being in a minority in my political beliefs, so it doesn't bother me.
    I don't often change my signature, but this was just too over the top to let anyone forget with what this country is up against...
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    I am for gay marriage because it ticks off Jesus freaks and social conservatives. Gays are also good voters because the vote for my side so I fight next to them.

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    Re: Dr. Benjamin Carson

    Some people are brilliant at certain things, and incept at others.

    Dr Carson is a brilliant doctor.

    Dr Carson is inept politically.

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