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Horse manure!So you are giving everyone if in their judgement they need a tank or a premptive strike they should be able to do it?
Horse manure!So you are giving everyone if in their judgement they need a tank or a premptive strike they should be able to do it?
That doesn't necessarily follow. We as a people accept the law and government enforcement of same to protect us from each other. This isn't a land of vigilantes, it's a land of law and order.The right to life is unquestionably a civil right. Without it, one cannot be considered "free" in any meaningful sense. It then logically follows that the right of self-defense is directly tied to the right to life. In order to defend oneself, you must be allowed to use those tools that will stop attacks on the self. Therefore, the right to bear arms is inextricably tied to the right to life.
Does that mean it's illegal for a UK citizen to come over here, buy a deer rifle and deer license, then go hunting?A civil right is defined as such:
"civil right: right or rights belonging to a person by reason of citizenship including especially the fundamental freedoms and privileges guaranteed by the 13th and 14th amendments and subsequent acts of Congress including the right to legal and social and economic equality."
Underlined portion is emphasis added by me. The right to keep and bear arms is a fundamental freedom and privledge provided to people by reason of citizenship. So would it be something that would be considered a "civil right"?
We as a people accept the law and government enforcement of same to protect us from each other.
A civil right is defined as such:
"civil right: right or rights belonging to a person by reason of citizenship including especially the fundamental freedoms and privileges guaranteed by the 13th and 14th amendments and subsequent acts of Congress including the right to legal and social and economic equality."
Underlined portion is emphasis added by me. The right to keep and bear arms is a fundamental freedom and privledge provided to people by reason of citizenship. So would it be something that would be considered a "civil right"?
No, the law is what protects us. Enforcement, the threat of reprimand for breaking the law, is what gives the law teeth. If the law wasn't enforced it would be useless.The Supreme Court ruled...that the police did not have a constitutional duty to protect a person from harm, even a woman who had obtained a court-issued protective order against a violent husband making an arrest mandatory for a violation.
http://www.nytimes.com/2005/06/28/politics/28scotus.html?_r=0
You do the best you can with what you've got. If you're overly concerned about personal protection I suggest martial arts classes. It also has the side benefit of keeping you physically active....and if a cop isn't there to protect you...what then?
You do the best you can with what you've got. If you're overly concerned about personal protection I suggest martial arts classes. It also has the side benefit of keeping you physically active.
Now you're being a vigilante: on-the-spot judge, jury, and executioner.Wrong. There is no second place when you or your family are the victim of an assault. You need to be able to kill your attacker.
You are wrong, you don't need to be a citizen to be protected by the Bill or Rights. All you need to be is a live human being.
What Are Civil Rights? - FindLaw
"Civil rights" are the rights of individuals to receive equal treatment (and to be free from unfair treatment or "discrimination") in a number of settings -- including education, employment, housing, and more -- and based on certain legally-protected characteristics.
Historically, the "Civil Rights Movement" referred to efforts toward achieving true equality for African-Americans in all facets of society, but today the term "civil rights" is also used to describe the advancement of equality for all people regardless of race, sex, age, disability, national origin, religion, or certain other characteristics.
Where Do Civil Rights Come From?
Most laws guaranteeing and regulating civil rights originate at the federal level, either through federal legislation, or through federal court decisions (such as those handed down by the U.S. Supreme Court). States also pass their own civil rights laws (usually very similar to those at the federal level), and even municipalities like cities and counties can enact ordinances and laws related to civil rights.
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No. The right to bear arms is a basic human right everyone on the entire planet possesses, identical to the right to breath.A civil right is defined as such:
"civil right: right or rights belonging to a person by reason of citizenship including especially the fundamental freedoms and privileges guaranteed by the 13th and 14th amendments and subsequent acts of Congress including the right to legal and social and economic equality."
Underlined portion is emphasis added by me. The right to keep and bear arms is a fundamental freedom and privledge provided to people by reason of citizenship. So would it be something that would be considered a "civil right"?
I am not sure the 2nd amendment is second to the 1st as the 2nd protects our 1st amendment rights.No it is not. It is a civil liberty... or in other words, a fundamental freedom that allows us as people to defend what we hold dear when the government cannot do it for us. Hence, it being the 2ND most important amendment.
Thank God you are not the one who interprets the law as it can be presumed if some one breaks into your home it is reasonable, and it most cases legal to kill him on the spot. Presumption of bodily harm is determined by the attack even if the attacker had no intention of bodily harm it can be presumed to be justified.Now you're being a vigilante: on-the-spot judge, jury, and executioner. If it's not a lethal assault then, as far as I'm concerned, you're a murderer.
Pulling a knife on someone, and rape, are both considered lethal assaults in most states.If it's not a lethal assault then, as far as I'm concerned, you're a murderer.
Nobody said anything about a home invasion or B&E. Quit changing the scenario to fit your case.Thank God you are not the one who interprets the law as it can be presumed if some one breaks into your home it is reasonable, and it most cases legal to kill him on the spot. Presumption of bodily harm is determined by the attack even if the attacker had no intention of bodily harm it can be presumed to be justified.
Just as one is not required to lift a tiger's tail to determine sex before killing it, one does not have to wait until it APPEARS to be a life threatening attack.
I didn't know about rape. I'll have to check on that.Pulling a knife on someone, and rape, are both considered lethal assaults in most states.
I don't know about a "natural" right (I have my own definitions of those) but it should be the right of anyone to own whatever they want as long as there's no direct danger to someone else (like unstable explosives or poison gas). In and of itself, that is enough of a "right" that trying to prop it up by claiming it for defense is ignorant. I don't care why you want to own a gun and the government shouldn't, either. It's none of my or their business.I see it as a natural right of all men and damn those scumbag politicians who deprive people of it. Man is born free and everywhere is in chains. Armed people throw off the chains
Is that Florida thing still being hashed out? Man, I would have thought that was long over by now. I guess it's gonna' be like the OJ trial, publicized until after it's long dead. In the Florida case, though, the publicity may be a good thing. America shouldn't be a country of vigilantes. If we're going that way, we may as well just throw the law books out the window.Trayvon lives!
If someone walks up to me on the street and punches me and I fear for my life I do have the right to kill him in self defense and I can assure you except in a few left wing nut states I will never be arrested.Nobody said anything about a home invasion or B&E. Quit changing the scenario to fit your case.
((And, yes, that's the way it works here as well. All they have to be is inside the threshold whether the door is open or not.))
If someone walks up to you on the street and punches you in the face you do not have the right to kill him - at least not in this state and I'd guess most others. If you killed someone just because they punched you, then you should be arrested for murder.