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    Re: Is the right to bear arms a civil right?

    Quote Originally Posted by MoSurveyor View Post
    If it's not a lethal assault then, as far as I'm concerned, you're a murderer.
    Pulling a knife on someone, and rape, are both considered lethal assaults in most states.

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    Re: Is the right to bear arms a civil right?

    Yes, it is a civil right-- aliens have no right to bear arms, and are allowed to do so only by the grace of the host government. It is, however, a right enjoyed by all free persons. People who live under governments that do not allow them to bear arms are slaves.

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    Re: Is the right to bear arms a civil right?

    I see it as a natural right of all men and damn those scumbag politicians who deprive people of it. Man is born free and everywhere is in chains. Armed people throw off the chains



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    Re: Is the right to bear arms a civil right?

    Quote Originally Posted by dnsmith View Post
    Thank God you are not the one who interprets the law as it can be presumed if some one breaks into your home it is reasonable, and it most cases legal to kill him on the spot. Presumption of bodily harm is determined by the attack even if the attacker had no intention of bodily harm it can be presumed to be justified.

    Just as one is not required to lift a tiger's tail to determine sex before killing it, one does not have to wait until it APPEARS to be a life threatening attack.
    Nobody said anything about a home invasion or B&E. Quit changing the scenario to fit your case.
    ((And, yes, that's the way it works here as well. All they have to be is inside the threshold whether the door is open or not.))

    If someone walks up to you on the street and punches you in the face you do not have the right to kill him - at least not in this state and I'd guess most others. If you killed someone just because they punched you, then you should be arrested for murder.
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    Re: Is the right to bear arms a civil right?

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
    Pulling a knife on someone, and rape, are both considered lethal assaults in most states.
    I didn't know about rape. I'll have to check on that.

    A knife, as well as many other implements, are lethal weapons. Where did I say the other guy needed a gun for it to be a lethal attack??
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    Re: Is the right to bear arms a civil right?

    Quote Originally Posted by MoSurveyor View Post
    Now you're being a vigilante: on-the-spot judge, jury, and executioner.


    If it's not a lethal assault then, as far as I'm concerned, you're a murderer.
    Trayvon lives!

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    Re: Is the right to bear arms a civil right?

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    I see it as a natural right of all men and damn those scumbag politicians who deprive people of it. Man is born free and everywhere is in chains. Armed people throw off the chains
    I don't know about a "natural" right (I have my own definitions of those) but it should be the right of anyone to own whatever they want as long as there's no direct danger to someone else (like unstable explosives or poison gas). In and of itself, that is enough of a "right" that trying to prop it up by claiming it for defense is ignorant. I don't care why you want to own a gun and the government shouldn't, either. It's none of my or their business.
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    Re: Is the right to bear arms a civil right?

    Quote Originally Posted by Ray410 View Post
    Trayvon lives!
    Is that Florida thing still being hashed out? Man, I would have thought that was long over by now. I guess it's gonna' be like the OJ trial, publicized until after it's long dead. In the Florida case, though, the publicity may be a good thing. America shouldn't be a country of vigilantes. If we're going that way, we may as well just throw the law books out the window.
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    Re: Is the right to bear arms a civil right?

    For those who have answered "No, it's [some other sort of right/privledge/thing]" a question for you all....

    Do you think that [right/privledge/thinkg] is something that would be MORE or LESS important than a Civil Right?

    IE, for those saying it's a "fundamental right". Are you suggesting that Fundamental Rights are even greater, or require even more protection, than a Civil Right would? Are you suggesting they need the same amount in general, but are different? Or are you suggesting a Fundamental right needs less protection?

    (I imagine I know the answer, but figure it's better to ask for clarification)

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    Re: Is the right to bear arms a civil right?

    Quote Originally Posted by MoSurveyor View Post
    Nobody said anything about a home invasion or B&E. Quit changing the scenario to fit your case.
    ((And, yes, that's the way it works here as well. All they have to be is inside the threshold whether the door is open or not.))

    If someone walks up to you on the street and punches you in the face you do not have the right to kill him - at least not in this state and I'd guess most others. If you killed someone just because they punched you, then you should be arrested for murder.
    If someone walks up to me on the street and punches me and I fear for my life I do have the right to kill him in self defense and I can assure you except in a few left wing nut states I will never be arrested.

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